id put them way above those bands..medeski alone is the best in the buisness.hes an amazing musician,and nobody could pull off what he pulls off..billy martin is a pretty ser drummer.i put him in the same category as stanton moore,but maybe not as ser...and chris wood is a pretty killer bass player too.when they play together,actualy tunes,nobody could touch them...the only thing about mmw,compared to breakfast,is i wouldnt be able to see them night after night after night..they become a bi tboring,but i think thats because they lack vocals...give them another chance..i havent picked up their new album,but have read only terrific things about it..