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« on: June 20, 2007, 12:33:03 pm »
...die in a waco style inferno

http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2007/06/we_either_walk_.html

Tuesday, June 19, 2007
"We either walk out of here free or we die."

That\'s what Ed Brown said during a press conference Monday. Brown and his wife were convicted earlier this year for not paying more than $1 million in income tax -- a law, by the way, they do not recognize. ( "There is no law. We looked and looked.")

Since the conviction, the Browns have holed up in their New Hampshire home, and the feds have been trying to talk them out -- without, they say, the threat of violence. Last week, the authorities cut off the Browns\' power, phone and Internet, though the Browns say they have backup systems in place.

Photo via The AP. Behind Brown? Randy Weaver, survivor of the Ruby Ridge standoff.

Link to the Browns official site.

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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2007, 02:06:02 pm »
The income tax law was never legally ratified, only 2 states ratified the amendment in 1913 and 36 was required. Not enough people knew what the government had done and it basically was a hush-hush situation with the IRS and government. It is rumored that the IRS tries to keep the situation out of the news when they come across people who have not paid income tax and settle it without much news. They do it the way everyone controls someone through fear and guilt.

I should also state I do not believe that it has been properly ratified but it might have been.

Quote from: wikipedia
In response to these developments, the Sixteenth Amendment was passed by the Sixty-first Congress and submitted to legislatures of the several states on July 12, 1909. The amendment was the crowning feature of a larger trend of legislative action meant to curb the power of the wealthy. The famous Pujo Committee Hearings, which aired the incestuous relationship between banks and corporate interests, were held during ratification, and the Clayton Antitrust Act was enacted shortly thereafter.

On February 25, 1913, the facist Secretary of State Philander Knox proclaimed that the amendment had been ratified by the necessary three-quarters of the states ensuring the constitutionality of unapportioned federal income taxes.

According to the United States Government Printing Office, the following states ratified the amendment:[8]

   1. Alabama (August 10, 1909)
   2. Kentucky (February 8, 1910)
   3. South Carolina (February 19, 1910)
   4. Illinois (March 1, 1910)
   5. Mississippi (March 7, 1910)
   6. Oklahoma (March 10, 1910)
   7. Maryland (April 8, 1910)
   8. Georgia (August 3, 1910)
   9. Texas (August 16, 1910)
  10. Ohio (January 19, 1911)
  11. Idaho (January 20, 1911)
  12. Oregon (January 23, 1911)
  13. Washington (January 26, 1911)
  14. Montana (January 27, 1911)
  15. Indiana (January 30, 1911)
  16. California (January 31, 1911)
  17. Nevada (January 31, 1911)
  18. South Dakota (February 1, 1911)
  19. Nebraska (February 9, 1911)
  20. North Carolina (February 11, 1911)
  21. Colorado (February 15, 1911)
  22. North Dakota (February 17, 1911)
  23. Michigan (February 23, 1911)
  24. Iowa (February 24, 1911)
  25. Kansas (March 2, 1911)
  26. Missouri (March 16, 1911)
  27. Maine (March 31, 1911)
  28. Tennessee (April 7, 1911)
  29. Arkansas (April 22, 1911, after having previously rejected the amendment)
  30. Wisconsin (May 16, 1911)
  31. New York (July 12, 1911)
  32. Arizona (April 3, 1912)
  33. Minnesota (June 11, 1912)
  34. Louisiana (June 28, 1912)
  35. West Virginia (January 31, 1913)
  36. New Mexico (February 3, 1913)

Ratification (by the requisite thirty-six states) was completed on February 3, 1913 with the ratification by New Mexico (but see Delaware and Wyoming below). The amendment was subsequently ratified by the following states, bringing the total number of ratifying states to forty-two:

    37. Delaware (February 3, 1913)
    38. Wyoming (February 3, 1913)
    39. New Jersey (February 4, 1913)
    40. Vermont (February 19, 1913)
    41. Massachusetts (March 4, 1913)
    42. New Hampshire (March 7, 1913, after rejecting the amendment on March 2, 1911)

The following states rejected the amendment without ever subsequently ratifying it:

   1. Connecticut
   2. Florida, which rejected the amendment after it had already been ratified by three-fourths of the states
   3. Rhode Island
   4. Utah

The following states never took up the proposed amendment:

   1. Pennsylvania
   2. Virginia

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I\'ll take a look back in some college history notes that I took in class regarding this because I don\'t believe they were "properly" ratified by all the states listed.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2007, 02:10:15 pm »
"Capital must protect itself in every way...Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law applied by the central power of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd."

JP Morgan….creator of the Federal Reserve
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2007, 02:15:12 pm »
exactly bdfreetuna

The Federal Reserve is nothing more than a cartel of private banks. Also, credit was a scam that made the bankers richer than they could have possibly manner. Nothing like loaning money you don\'t have and charging an interest.
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