Why does there always have to be some negative fuck? I swear to god, its fuckin\' ridiculous. I\'ve been seeing live music for like 15 years and have a really good ear for detail, and unless you were standing right next to the speaker or drums I can\'t see how it sounded muddy, whatever the fuck that means. If you are looking for slower paced Pychedelic Breakfast then listen to something old, the music has changed some ways for the better, some ways not, but to say it sounds like garbage is a little harsh, I\'m not a big fan of the chase without Jordan, and DocEllis my boy, you hit it on the head w/ Tim\'s vocals but whatever, the fuckin zones they get in during songs like puppetry and buquebus are fuckin great hot and TLATG>OE sounded as good as I\'ve heard it. But, hey we all have our muscial preferences and opinions so I guess I have to respect that. Garbage?