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« Reply #75 on: March 29, 2007, 02:43:46 pm »
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After seeing around 140+ shows with Jordan, and being friends with Jordan...I still say that the music is more interesting for me now than before.  And I am very OUTSPOKEN if something is to my disliking(HoneyButter;)), so to say that people are clueless or missing the point by not yearning for a keyboardist is just wrong.


I agree.  Granted, since moving out of CT, I am not as heavily involved with the band as I once was.... I am lucky to see 2 or 3 shows a year these days.  Having just seen them for the first time without Jordan this past Feb, I can tell you that the last thing on my mind during the shows was "where\'s Jordan?" or "where\'s the keyboards?".  So, IMO, the music as played by the 3 piece is not the problem.  They sound as tight and cohesive as ever.

I think the band is suffering from the same ailments that they have been struggling with for years.... management & promo (or a lack thereof).  Until these things change, be it by the band memebers themselves doing it, or hiring someone to do it, their situation is not going to improve.  With everyone getting older, priorities in life will begin changing... I can\'t see them continuing at this rate forever.
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« Reply #76 on: March 29, 2007, 03:02:21 pm »
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I agree.  Granted, since moving out of CT, I am not as heavily involved with the band as I once was.... I am lucky to see 2 or 3 shows a year these days.  Having just seen them for the first time without Jordan this past Feb, I can tell you that the last thing on my mind during the shows was "where\'s Jordan?" or "where\'s the keyboards?".  So, IMO, the music as played by the 3 piece is not the problem.  They sound as tight and cohesive as ever.

I think the band is suffering from the same ailments that they have been struggling with for years.... management & promo (or a lack thereof).  Until these things change, be it by the band memebers themselves doing it, or hiring someone to do it, their situation is not going to improve.  With everyone getting older, priorities in life will begin changing... I can\'t see them continuing at this rate forever.




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« Reply #77 on: March 31, 2007, 12:14:03 am »
Im blown away by this thread....all that keeps going through my mind is "its cool that this band has such a family; it has its own fan website!" This place is beyond Phantasytour in my opinion!  I am so impressed my the members of the band for their skills...I apologize for not hitting every show possible (teaching and my past DUI attribute to this) I really think that there is something special about these guys and the people that groove to them...PJ
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« Reply #78 on: March 31, 2007, 06:36:49 pm »
I love how every one\'s written like their post are gonna be graded by an English college professor.  Anyway, as with life things change, people for the most part do not like change, huge revelation I know, so when Jordan left the band it sucked for all of us, band included, and like me I\'m sure there were a few people who were thrown off or had "confused ears" when they heard Jordan songs without him.  I\'m sure that the band probably took a huge collective breath right before they played without him (or not) for the first time and I should have been there but wasn\'t, but I doubt that they were booed for it.  I hope that everyone there who was and is a true fan supported the hell out of them.  They were taking a huge risk by doing it and since then sometimes it turned out to be as good or better than before, and sometimes it wasn\'t, what can ya do?  One of the things that really pisses me off is when people seemingly post on here to air out their frustrations or whatever about the the band, nobody wants to hear that shit, believe me.  And I\'m not saying that every post has to be unconditional either but sometimes it gets out of hand.  For me its also kinda cheesy to see a bunch of wide eyes retards seemingly trying to jump on stage and hump the band, and for a while that was the reason that I could take or leave coming to a show.  For quite a while I wouldn\'t even read any post show comments because they all were either to negative or talked about how everything was, epic, ser, sick or whatever, I mean there was a time that all Adrian had to do was criss/cross his hands during a solo (ya know total eye candy shit, like spinning a stick) and the place blew up with excitement, like he took it to a level never seen before.  Whatever the reason for the attendance decline, or lack of fan enthusiasm is probably a combination of things.  Also even the most successful bands keep promoting themselves, Oh it\'s hard, boo hoo.  I will tell you that a reason that people I\'ve invited to shows don\'t wanna come because of the the blind over-enthusiasm, but that\'s their problem not the bands, or maybe it is.  Who knows.  If I had all day and a better ability to put all of my thoughts into words then, I\'d have more to say, but for now the breakfast is what it is, nothing more.  They may or not be doing the best they can to promote but whatever, the music should do most of the talking, and if it doesn\'t then that\'s a big problem.  I hope I didn\'t upset anyone if, i did then lighten the fuck up, and sorry if I repeated anything that anyone said.  Now it would be funny to me if one of the negative fuckers gave a bad overly critical review to my post.  For those of you going to see Tim (not Timmy) I will see you there.  Good night.
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« Reply #79 on: March 31, 2007, 07:15:27 pm »
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I love how every one\'s written like their post are gonna be graded by an English college professor.

that\'s .info for ya, always has been always will be, one spelling mistake, "teh" instead of "the" and you\'ll be hearing about it for months. :shrug:
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« Reply #80 on: April 06, 2007, 06:43:53 pm »
here\'s what I think. what set the breakfast apart from any other band out there was the keys, and the way they used them in there sound, song writing. etc etc. I believe thats what really set them apart from the rest. not to mention the fact that all there songs were written with keys in mind. now that they dont have jordan anymore all there songs just dont sound the best they can sound. there\'s a big gap missing and they need to fill it..period..

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« Reply #81 on: April 06, 2007, 09:00:49 pm »
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here\'s what I think. what set the breakfast apart from any other band out there was the keys


are you ser?  Back in the day, no one ever really said (after reading a setlist or being at a live show) "Wow, man!  the keys were insane tonight!"  Most times, people\'s minds were melted by either Tim\'s guitar skills & jams, or Adrian\'s sick drumming.  Don\'t get me wrong, I miss Jordan - but, to say that the keys were the BEST part of the Breakfast seems a little ignorant, imho.
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« Reply #82 on: April 06, 2007, 11:40:19 pm »
I hear yah, and I agree that tim ron and adrian got the most attention, but what Im saying is that jordan really filled up the space. the songs were written with jordans input, so the aproach to there songwriting was different when he was in the band. Im not saying their songwriting abilities are gonna suck now, Im just saying that when they perform there originals, they dont sound right, theres that missing element to their sound..

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« Reply #83 on: April 07, 2007, 01:15:58 am »
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here\'s what I think. what set the breakfast apart from any other band out there was the keys


are you ser?  Back in the day, no one ever really said (after reading a setlist or being at a live show) "Wow, man!  the keys were insane tonight!"  Most times, people\'s minds were melted by either Tim\'s guitar skills & jams, or Adrian\'s sick drumming.  Don\'t get me wrong, I miss Jordan - but, to say that the keys were the BEST part of the Breakfast seems a little ignorant, imho.


There you go again Robyn putting words in someone\'s post. In this case the word BEST. BEST was nvr mentioned funkydrummer posted what set the Breakfast apart from any other band out there and explained the point. Never saying Keys were the BEST part of the Breakfast.

You are correct in posting that people rarely left a Breakfast show in awe over Jordan\'s playing.
Rather they left drooling over Tim or Adrian. That seems to be one of the biggest drawbacks for the band is the extraordinary abilities of usually Tim that overshadows the band as a whole.
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« Reply #84 on: April 07, 2007, 08:04:03 am »
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now that they dont have jordan anymore all there songs just dont sound the best they can sound.


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There you go again Robyn putting words in someone\'s post. In this case the word BEST. BEST was nvr mentioned


ooooohhhh, sorry, leith... guess I was mistaken :shrug:
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« Reply #85 on: April 07, 2007, 09:35:58 am »
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I hope I didn\'t upset anyone if, i did then lighten the fuck up, and sorry if I repeated anything that anyone said.


I am insulted. What the hell Brandon? Seriously, what the hell. :P

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« Reply #86 on: April 07, 2007, 01:49:20 pm »
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Quote from: funkydrummer23;141358
now that they dont have jordan anymore all there songs just dont sound the best they can sound.


Quote from: leith;141376

There you go again Robyn putting words in someone\'s post. In this case the word BEST. BEST was nvr mentioned


ooooohhhh, sorry, leith... guess I was mistaken :shrug:


As a teacher you should understand how you are misinterpeting someone\'s words.

As explained in the FULL post(which you handily decided to cut to fit your point) the point was made that the songs written for a 4 PIECE do not sound the best they can which is entirely true.

 Never was it mentioned that the Keys were the best part of The Breakfast WHICH YOU construed from the post and quoted, only that the songs could sound best w/ all the parts written for the songs being played.

Actually this is very true and that is a reason the band has been rearranging songs to fit the trio since most of these songs were written for 4 people.

So yeah you were mistaken.
In the context you tried to put it in BEST was nvr mentioned.
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« Reply #87 on: April 07, 2007, 03:42:35 pm »
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what set the breakfast apart from any other band out there was the keys, and the way they used them in there sound, song writing. etc etc. I believe thats what really set them apart from the rest.

no, not BEST, leith, but certainly, in the poster\'s opinion, MOST IMPORTANT. so, she picked a synonomous word which almost but not exactly correctly conveys the original poster\'s point and opinion. give it a fucking break, dude. the BEST they can sound requires a keyboardist. specifically jordan. and she\'s got a point. while jordan wasn\'t neccessarily the next hornsby, he wasn\'t bad at all. infact, i like his tones and style. but to say that he made them stand out from every other jamband? hell, the four piece setup is part of what made them kinda generic and not standouts in the first place. phish did it and every band after them did it, too. now, jordan can\'t be with the band anymore, which is a bummer, but i personally really groove on the three piece. it still has a ways to go to finish developing its style, but its a less than year old entity, so i\'m willing to forgive it for now, as long as it continues to grow and develop, which it clearly is.

i guess my point is, why the fuck are you jumping down robyn\'s throat for stating her perception of dude\'s post? perception is reality and if her perception isn\'t exactly what he said, either he should be clearer or you should unclench you butthole and take a deep breath! did he say jordan was the BEST member of the band? no. but did he say that jordan was the most integral part of the band? yes. yes he did.

you pmsing or something, dude?

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« Reply #88 on: April 07, 2007, 04:25:17 pm »
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here\'s what I think. what set the breakfast apart from any other band out there was the keys


are you ser?  Back in the day, no one ever really said (after reading a setlist or being at a live show) "Wow, man!  the keys were insane tonight!"  Most times, people\'s minds were melted by either Tim\'s guitar skills & jams, or Adrian\'s sick drumming.  Don\'t get me wrong, I miss Jordan - but, to say that the keys were the BEST part of the Breakfast seems a little ignorant, imho.


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what set the breakfast apart from any other band out there was the keys, and the way they used them in there sound, song writing. etc etc. I believe thats what really set them apart from the rest.


no, not BEST, leith, but certainly, in the poster\'s opinion, MOST IMPORTANT. so, she picked a synonomous word which almost but not exactly correctly conveys the original poster\'s point and opinion. give it a fucking break, dude. the BEST they can sound requires a keyboardist. specifically jordan. and she\'s got a point. while jordan wasn\'t neccessarily the next hornsby, he wasn\'t bad at all. infact, i like his tones and style. but to say that he made them stand out from every other jamband? hell, the four piece setup is part of what made them kinda generic and not standouts in the first place. phish did it and every band after them did it, too. now, jordan can\'t be with the band anymore, which is a bummer, but i personally really groove on the three piece. it still has a ways to go to finish developing its style, but its a less than year old entity, so i\'m willing to forgive it for now, as long as it continues to grow and develop, which it clearly is.

i guess my point is, why the fuck are you jumping down robyn\'s throat for stating her perception of dude\'s post? perception is reality and if her perception isn\'t exactly what he said, either he should be clearer or you should unclench you butthole and take a deep breath! did he say jordan was the BEST member of the band? no. but did he say that jordan was the most integral part of the band? yes. yes he did.

you pmsing or something, dude?


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« Reply #89 on: April 07, 2007, 04:58:37 pm »
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Is your name Robyn? No? So there is your answer.

:fucktard:You want a response??  Ok, here it is:  Stop focusing all the attention on you & your shitty opinions.  See Freddie\'s avatar for more info.


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you pmsing or something, dude?

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