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« Reply #315 on: October 01, 2007, 11:24:45 am »
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hope pitchie didn\'t have one of these on order!


He was going to for the novelty of it, but they were completely sold out of both XL and 2XL.
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« Reply #316 on: October 01, 2007, 01:56:05 pm »
The bottom line is that the 2007 New York Mets were a mediocre team that played poorly and showed complacency from June on and missed countless opportunities to put away the division. The Mets only hung onto first because nobody in the division got hot, until September of course, when Philly got raging hot and the Mets went iceberg cold. The Mets could have buried Philly last month, but were swept four games, and then had another chance to do so with a three-game set, only to be swept again.

But even with all of that, even with the lousy bullpen and the disgraceful September from Billy Wagner; even with the ineffectiveness of Tom Glavine (who can never pitch for the Mets again) and John Maine (despite Saturday) down the stretch; even with the inconsistent years from nearly every offensive player, including Reyes going 5 for his last 41; even with their lack of hustle and overly casual, yet at times, brash attitude; even with Willie (who should be back) making numerous bonehead maneuvers, such as pitching people like Brian Lawrence, Phillip Humber, and Carlos Muniz in key spots; even with the injuries to Carlos Delgado and El Duque; even with Paul Lo Duca’s big mouth (another guy who cannot come back); even with the suspensions of Marlon Anderson and Lastings Milledge; even with all of these negative factors, the New York Mets still had a three-game lead in the loss column with seven home games to play against the Nationals, Cardinals, and Marlins and went 1-6 in those games.

Furthermore, they had a two-game lead with five to play and a 5-0 lead against the Nationals on Wednesday, but inexplicably pitched Humber—who had never made a major-league start—and he along with their pathetic bullpen gave away yet another one. I really had felt completely confident that the Mets would win the division until that game.

But even with all that, the Mets still had destiny in their own hands yesterday, yet saw an aging Hall of Famer completely break down and an offense that struggled producing two-out RBIs all year do so yet again as the Mets finished the season a miserable 12-25 at home against the National League East.

Clearly, there are an overwhelming amount of reasons why the Mets did not deserve to compete in the postseason and the Mets got exactly what they deserve: nothing.

Last year’s loss to the Cardinals actually felt worse because of the different expectation level and the way it ended with a Game 7 loss at home, but obviously, the final result of this year is way worse. It’s the worst collapse in baseball history; it’s the worst thing I’ve experienced in rooting for any of my favorite sports teams.

The New York Mets were a disgraceful organization in 2007. They blew it. They suck. They gagged. They were awful. They choked. They were horrific. They ruined the fall for millions of dedicated and passionate fans.

But unlike those pathetic pieces of shit who left Shea in the seventh inning yesterday, this fan stuck it out and maintained hope the entire season, through the final, bitter out, even rooting for the Nationals to somehow piece together a ninth-inning rally against Philly as I watched the game on the computer after the Mets’ game had ended.

But that obviously didn’t happen and this is where we are. And in the first week of March next year, I’ll be right back in front of the television ready to watch the Mets first spring training game as the road towards a World Series title in 2008 will begin. And the good news is: whoever starts that first spring training game is guaranteed to pitch longer than Glavine did yesterday.

I think Pedro Martinez said it best, when he said, “We fucked it up.”

They sure did.
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« Reply #317 on: October 01, 2007, 09:56:03 pm »
I can\'t believe you want willie back.

he sucks! It\'s not all on him because the players have to have some accountability but Willie is a piece of shit.

Here\'s why:

1) BONEHEAD UNCONVENTIONAL IDIOTIC IN-GAME MOVES!
Anyone who knows the game and watches on regular basis will find themselves saying what the fuck at least a few times a week. Once in a while he gets lucky and looks like a genius but usually the obvious call is the right one but instead willie goes with a hunch and gets burned. I realize no manager can make every decision right in the course of the season but willie screws up easy obvious decisions like the total rookie he is.

2) His bullshit UNEMOTIONAL deadpan approach to being managing a team. The team played exactly the way willie managed. WITH NO HEART AND NO ENTHUSIASM AND NO REAL BURNING DESIRE TO WIN!!!

Just be cool and collected right WIllie? Great approach when your team is gonna win 95-100 games and coast into the playoffs but when your team is in the midst of the worst choke in history you need to do SOMETHING, ANYTHING to snap them out of it! Get them fired up! Give them a pep talk! Take a fucking bat and smash up the club house if you have to for christ sakes! The ship was sinking for almost a month and willie just sat there watching it happen being delussionally optimistic while 3/4 of the team played like and didn;t even care and all he can say after every game is "I gotta stick with my guys" Guess what willie "your guys" ain\'t stickin with you anymore bro and they ain\'t playing hard for you because your an unemotional loser that couldn\'t fire up a lighter! You don\'t go out and defend them when they are in argument with an ump over a bullshit call. You bench reyes and it fucks up his head and you do nothing to fix the situation just let him pout and spiral into oblivion. Fuck that. WILLIE MUST GO!

I really don\'t see this team being good for the next few years unless omar has and amazing offseason. Our lineup is mostly over the hill and on the decline, and the few iffy prospects we have are not ready and there is very little on an overpriced free agent market.
 We are pretty much fucked. THis year we didnt we have a shot. LAST YEAR was our year and we fucked it up.

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« Reply #318 on: October 01, 2007, 10:28:27 pm »
so the Mets didn\'t make the playoffs?
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« Reply #319 on: October 01, 2007, 10:32:54 pm »
nope worst choke in the history of the game and their manager did absolutely NOTHING to stop it.

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« Reply #320 on: October 02, 2007, 12:23:10 am »
Sucks for The Padres to lose on a blown call by the Ump. It was an exciting game and for Hoffman to blow the Save was horrendous but Matt Holliday never touched Home. Fuckin\' Sux! Oh well Go Angels!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #321 on: October 02, 2007, 12:42:26 am »
that\'s such garbage! he didn\'t touch home and barrett had possession of the ball when he tagged him. after the tag he lost it. what a crock of shit. i knew fucking hoffman was going to blow this game. he should have put holiday on first while it was open and at least tried for the double play. im so fucking mad right now! god dammit.
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« Reply #322 on: October 03, 2007, 12:53:12 pm »
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that\'s such garbage! he didn\'t touch home and barrett had possession of the ball when he tagged him. after the tag he lost it.


That\'s not the rule.  If the catcher loses posession of the ball due to impact with the runner, the runner is safe.  That\'s why they try to run over the catchers, and also why the catcher went to get the ball and tag the runner again.  So the ball-posession case is wrong, but of course it\'s all irrelevant because the guy never touched the plate and was eventually tagged out.  And of course even if he were correctly called out the next guy up might have just gotten a hit and drove in the winning run from second anyhow.      

What I\'m trying to figure out is who had the worse weekend: A Padres/Chargers fan (Pads blow 2 chances to clinch a playoff spot, lose 2nd game on bad call, Chargers officially suck after getting killed by lowly Chiefs) or a Mets/Jets fan (Mets epic collapse, Jets officially suck after getting beaten by lowly Bills.)

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« Reply #323 on: October 03, 2007, 01:14:55 pm »
Wolf - please don\'t assume that all Jets fans are Mets fans.  I may be in the minority, but this Jets fan is a Yankee fan.
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« Reply #324 on: October 03, 2007, 02:01:38 pm »
Yankees in 4
Red Sox in 5
Phillies in 4
Cubs in 5

World Series: Yankees over Phillies

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« Reply #325 on: October 04, 2007, 01:13:32 pm »
Wow. Day one of the playoffs is complete and nothing here? C\'mon you fans of teams who didn\'t fuck up their entire season in the last week. Let\'s get going!

Well, the early Moron of the Playoffs Award goes to Lou Pinella, who removed his ace, Carlos Zambrano, after 6 innings and 85 pitches last night. What followed was the Cubs\' bullpen blowing the game and Lou being his usual asshole self by arguing that he was saving Zambrano for Sunday.

Hey Lou, you lose two more and you won\'t have to worry about playing on Sunday, schmuckface!

And in other news, it would have been nice to see Rollins, Utley, and Howard have the types of performances they did yesterday (0 hits) a few times when they were battling the Mets in September.

Red Sox: what can you say? Beckett has proven to be a dynamite postseason pitcher in his brief career.

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« Reply #326 on: October 04, 2007, 01:19:32 pm »
Angels got smoked and I am still trying to figure out what the hell Scioscia was doing with that line-up.
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« Reply #327 on: October 04, 2007, 02:30:56 pm »
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Wow. Day one of the playoffs is complete and nothing here? C\'mon you fans of teams who didn\'t fuck up their entire season in the last week. Let\'s get going!.....

...Red Sox: what can you say? Beckett has proven to be a dynamite postseason pitcher in his brief career.


Beckett is the man. Redsox seem to be rested and healthy. Nuff said.
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« Reply #328 on: October 04, 2007, 05:50:30 pm »
As a Mets\' fan, I don\'t know what\'s making me more sick: seeing the Phillies in the playoffs or watching Kaz Matsui get an RBI hit every time he comes to the plate. Ugh.

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« Reply #329 on: October 04, 2007, 06:05:35 pm »
pulling zambrano at 85 pitches to save his arm for game 4 and putting in that rookie was an incredibly stupid move.