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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2006, 05:59:12 pm »
that 2nd set looks thick.. too bad no tape. bullshit.
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2006, 06:39:10 pm »
This sucks beyond belief!!! The management needs a mic stand up its ass!!!!
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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2006, 02:09:58 pm »
ok, well since this one wasn\'t taped, i\'ll expand my initial, hungover comments and try to give y\'all a better feel for this great night.

to begin with, it was a crappy night weatherwise, so no one was really expecting much of turn out. in fact, the 8x10 even closed off the upstairs portion of the club. that helped by keeping what crowd that there was in one big group, as opposed to letting it spread out and seem emptier. i will say about 50 folks were there, but i never actually did a head count. more than i thought would show up (including a couple of those die hard fans i met, thar are without the internet that you are surprised to see wearing shirts and knowing the words- who are they?!) given the weather, though. now, we got there for the last song or so of the opening band. they were very young, but had a lot of the right ideas. hopefully they\'ll stick together long enough to really get good. but then it was breakfast time!

i was a little afraid that they\'d be in no real rush to set up and get playing, but i was impressed to see them jump right to it and not give the folks in the crowd for the first band a chance to get bored/finish their drinks and leave. i was also happy to see that very few folks did split (those that did seemed like parents/siblings of the first band). now, i will say upfront that this was one of those shows where everything came together in such a way as to make you think you were the center of the universe. to that end, ever time i went back to the bar to get a drink, it was during an intro jam, which always seem to end and get to the song itself just as i\'d gotten back to my spot and settled in. you just gotta love synchronistic nights like those!

so they opened up with a nice space city affair-ish intro jam (in all honesty, i can never tell what\'s a space city and what\'s just a jam, but hey, sounded space city-ish to me! ;) ) into great big firey ball in the sky. in another synchronistic moment, i had been talking to my best friend about the show earlier and he said, \'i hope they play gbfbits fo ya, and i hope they play it really long!\' see, he\'s one of those guys who has to rag on something just because i like it so much. so he rags on the breakfast, almost exclusively about/because of gbfbits. the first time i took him to see PB, they played it and really kinda over-psychedelic\'ed the chorus. drawn out, slightly askew vowels, playing up and down with the melody line, very pseudo-60\'s psychedelia and he happened to decide to pay attention just then, and he didn\'t like it. i liked the idea, but thought that the actual result hadn\'t worked quite as well as they were hoping. its also something i haven\'t heard them do any time recently. anyway, that\'s where it lies, the repeated chorus being sung kinda forced-psychedelically, the sing-songiness of the chorus, and he\'s a big tuff guy who likes the drive by truckers, and voila! he\'s got a place to rib me about my favorite band. he likes the breakfast and even was newly impressed when he saw the camp barefoot show, admitting a newfound liking of the edge of the three piece version. but nonetheless, there\'s the song he wished upon me, starting things out!

i leaned back to my buddy josh who lives just up the hill from the club and laughed, \'this is the song usry hates!!\'

he laughed back and said, \'yea, i know!\'

so into the sun they went. knowing what i know about this band, i know that the jam in gbfbits is one of the best things they can do. maybe not every time, but when it really gets fired up and going, it can reign supreme. and this one Took Off after just a bit of gathering of the energy and setting tone. i like that about the new changes they\'ve been working on to their sound. yeah, i still want an 8000 notes per second blitzkrieg, but they need to come from somewhere so that when they do become unleashed they\'re even deadlier! and that\'s what tim\'s been working on for a while now and bygawd its really starting show its fruits! it allows the band to give whole new levels of depth and weight to their jams and gives the listener a much more sophisticated sonic palate to enjoy. then they slipped quite nicely into dimension 5.

again, it seemed really appropriate to me, what with the engagement and all, so i smiled real big for my baby who was at home with the flu and danced my ass off. at one point, during the exultant jam, i had my big-ass shiteating grin going full steam and opened up my eyes to see timmy grinnin\' back.

oh, and i forgot to mention. this crowd was waaay into the boys! in fact, i wasn\'t even the first to start hootin\' and hollerin\', which made me happily surprised! there was a ton of energy and lots of love for the boys in that room *all* night. there was even a \'three or four more songs!\' chant during the encore break, but i\'m getting ahead of myself here.

i think tim said a hey howya doin before starting up see the light.

at this point, i leaned back to josh and said, \'this one\'s gonna be really good! its a meat of the second set type tune...\' his response? \'Sweet!\'

and boy howdy was it!! the drive through the hurricane from dc to baltimore was bought and paid for right there! i know epic is tossed around a bunch, but this version was beautiful, transporting and celebratory all at once. when you closed your eyes, you were taken off on a soaring journey and when you opened them again it was in excitement and joy! at one point, tim was on both the synth and his guitar, making the most gorgeous, swelling chords and harmonies with the two voices at once.... and of course, at points you were bouncing around around giddily.

in all fairness, the transition into no glove, no love was a bit bumpy but quickly forgotten. josh was really groovin out on this tune, which made sense, considering how much funk was being flung! i\'m not normally a very hip-y dancer, but you\'d\'a thunk i was a big black woman the way my hips were gyratin\'! its a good thing was drunk by then, i may have embarassed myself otherwise...

i was excited to hear doughboy\'s reworking and i gotta say, i really like ronnie\'s bass breakdown in lieu of keys. i was wondering who was gonna take what and how it would sound, but i\'d say that, even if another keyboard player comes along, that ron should keep taking that line, cuz it just hits you so well!

another jam intro, another drink, another song starting as soon as i\'d got back and things were going along just swimmingly.

superfly phaddy fat was ballsy, but to be honest, for some reason i was having trouble getting into it for the first little while. their energy had been so high all set long that maybe they were getting tired, maybe (and more likely) i was getting tired (i had sweat dripping off the ends of my hair at this point), maybe it was because someone was standing between me and my backup drink (josh and i kept buying each other drinks at the same time so we often had to put down the extra drink) and i wasn\'t comfortable being seperated like that, but whatever... it was another huge version with lots of fun but as it ended and animal went into his short but sweet drum solo, tim wasn\'t quite ready to be done just yet and called out for surreal radio.

and surreal radio has some big, nasty, hairy balls indeed! i looked over to josh and said just two words.

\'Arena rocker!\'

and it was! a stomping, rumbling tear through the woods kinda feel, floor shaking, heads thrashing, devil horns flying, good old fashioned rawk!

during the first set, timmy was tapping bunch. there was a guy standing over stage left who i think was the opening band\'s guitarist, and he was throwing out encouragement and fun to timmy throughout. \'get it nasty! dirtier!\' and timmy would then do so and blow everyone\'s minds. lots of feeling coming out of him all night, but particularly the first set.

for setbreak we stood around pulling our meager little minds back together- re-coagulating, if you will- getting more drinks, chatting with ron and adrian briefly, and finding an out of the way spot for a quick smoke. but seeing as how it was a very short setbreak, and that we\'d been warned that we were in for \'a LOT of notes!\' i kept my foray brief.

now, for the sake of honesty in storytelling, and to save myself from having to figure out how to say the same things over and over without repeating myself, and to save myself from having to come up with filler when i don\'t quite remember all the bits and details, i will say this- i was pretty good and feelin groovy by this point, so perhaps i don\'t remember all of it quite as well as maybe i could. i\'ve been prescribed a pain killer for my stomach and the last thing i need is to have an attack at a show (its happened before and its not a good scene), so i took one. and seeing as how i was walking home after the show, i saw no reason not to imbibe a coupleafew liquor drinks and steal away for a quick smoke. so i apologize that my review of the second set isn\'t quite as detailed as the first, but here goes anyway.

space city affair>jam, was, as i said before, time to get another drink and get settled as mayfly began. my neck really hurts still today and it is because of this second set. it wasn\'t just high energy, it was thunderous and assaulting. standing in front of animal al night, its just incredible to watch how much force and sound can come out of one guy! and ronnie really stepped it up second set, i thought. i found my body following his bass lines more and more throughout the night and it started during mayfly.

but honeybutter>merge>honeybutter was when they really started to unleash! i simply can\'t tell you how fast, tight and wicked this honeybutter was. it was like a machine gun on meth, like a tiger shark in a frenzy, like popeye mainlining spinach. sinew-y, taut, focused and intense. and just when you thought it couldn\'t get any wilder, merge finds an extra gear and the energy is like a furious thrash band!!! and the tension keeps gathering and the pace keeps increasing then Snap! back into honeybutter!!! to be honest, i had lost my place during the honeybutter jam and merge had come out of nowhere to me, then i\'d lost myself in merge and the return to honeybutter was just as surprising. seamless and sudden, like that\'s just the way they\'re supposed to be played. i was dripping sweat by this point.

another intro jam, another drink and that\'s when i could swear i heard a crowwtown traffic tease, in fact, whoo hoo\'d \'cause i thought that would be a perfect commentary on the region\'s godawful traffic issues, but drunk monk bar started instead and i wondered if maybe i didn\'t just hear wrong. i did, however, then think that drunk monk bar was a perfect commentary on me and josh, at least.

as honeybutter was laser-tight, dmb was full bodied and massive. hearing tim sing the vocals is still a bit weird (you just expect jordan\'s voice, ya know?) but that\'s all that was out of place. that song still works as a balls to the walls rocker, undulating and thumping, screaming out the chorus just releasing the built up muscularity of the song you suddenly find yourself filled with....

another jam, another two drinks each (oops) and into the fray again. remember how i mentioned some unknowns i said hey to before the show? well, one of them had said, \'man, i hope they play buquebus! i fuckin\' love that song!\' now this guy (who\'s name i should remember, but, alas...) was an older guy who\'d first seen the breakfast when they\'d opened for project object there in 2003 and has seen every baltimore show since. so, when \'queeb got started up, i gave him the tap on the shoulder and and said, \'i guess you\'re getting your song, man!\' and he took a second, then realized that he was, in fact, getting his song and smiled big. and what a buquebus it was!!!

its kinda become a joke between jill and i that every buquebus seems to get labeled as \'the best buquebus ever\'. whenever we read each other a setlist containing buquebus, it automatically gets read as \'the best buquebus ever\'. all in good fun, but when you\'ve got such a monster of a tune in your repetoire, you can certainly undrstand why folks are continually blown away by it. and friday night was no exception. i can easily say that its the best post-jordan buquebus ever, and honestly, i\'d rank it high in my personal ones seen. did it beat the puppethouse one? probably not. but was it of the same ilk? definitely! i actually didn\'t miss the swirling synths during the first trancy jam (which didn\'t drop too much energy, which is occassionally the case, i feel, with doing trance stuff) in part because tim was filling in the sounds that needed to be there with his keys, but also in large part because he was playing more guitar than keys. they just did the same thing they always have done, they just did it with less synth. they still had a thick trance groove going, but tim didn\'t take as much time away from the guitar as he did in, say, the camp barefoot version. ron and adrian locked into a ridiculous groove, with ron playing a lot of lead bass and that carried the tune, allowing tim to layer on top. plus, we got more of the second, guitar-based jam than at camp barefoot. it really was great!

a quick breather (no drink) and into the trimuphant wild pack of asscracks. fun, fast and joyous, it was a wonderful high energy exclamation point to the night\'s oddessy. the crowd was hollerin\' long and hard as it crashed to a close and didn\'t stop until they\'d come back on stage. i started yellin \'one more set\' but the guy next to me started \'three or four more songs\', so i went with that. and so did the entire rest of the crowd! one guy (bowman?) said something to the effect of \'the crowd wants three or four more but you only have time for one more. what\'re ya gonna do?!!\' their answer? they were gonna keep on rockin\'!!

when i saw adrian come back out with the guitar strapped on, i leaned over to josh and said, \'rockin\' in the free world, man! here we go!\' and sure enough they jumped right in! more high energy, more fun, more freedom ringing and more catharsis, it was the perfect way to wind down the night. everyone in the crowd afterwards was happily worn out and struggling to gather themselves. while it wasn\'t a huge night numbers-wise, the crowd that was there fed the band and the band exponentiated it right back at them!!!

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« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2006, 03:16:38 pm »
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Awesome! thanks for taking the time to write that up bro... maybe submit it to the show review forum eh?

But... maaaan..... you leave to get drinks DURING the jams????  Wow, I can\'t even imagine. Breakfast always has my brain in a vice grip whenever they do anything remotely improvisational --- I only leave for drinks when I know I\'ve got a couple minutes of no-jams coming up :)
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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2006, 03:44:12 pm »
DANNNG..that was the longest review ive read, and a good one too!  sounds like the show was bangin!
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« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2006, 05:24:26 pm »
great review jason, i almost feel like i was there (and wish i could have been!) sounds like you guys had a great time!

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« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2006, 05:33:04 pm »
the review was incredible... one of the shows I\'ve wished I\'d have been to... -- great show & awesome review!!!!  I\'m glad u had fun jking (&jill) & hopefully we\'ll see ya soon! :D
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« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2006, 07:46:12 pm »
Great review Jason!!!! Wish I could have been there!!!!

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« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2006, 08:19:30 pm »
Wow!!  Great review.:bowdown:

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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2006, 12:43:56 am »
nice reveiw brother, sounds like a great night, wish I had been there.
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« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2006, 01:00:58 am »
jking, your reviews transport me. well done.
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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2006, 01:24:57 pm »
I just want to make a few corrections to what has been said here.

Dave was 100% correct in his post about our policy:

the club doesn\'t allow tapers to set up mics. they have a set of house mics set up, with a patchbay that you can bring a deck to plug into. many tapers are really turned off by this rule, and refuse to give the venue their business.

the house also records the show and gives it to the band afterwards. sure enough, the house recording "failed" last night, so no, there is no recording.


However even though he posted the policy correctly some subsequent posters read that as a no taping policy.

Many people look at my policy and say it is a no taping policy. Yes it is true I do not allow people to set up their own mics. but I have made it so that even the most inexperienced fan can come and walk away with a copy of the show.

You no longer need to know about mic placement and field recording techniques. You no longer need to wait in line for hours to get the prime position. You no longer need to spend thousands of dollars on expensive gear.

I have taken the world of taping and opened it up to EVERYONE....

You can literally walk up with your ipod or similar mp3 player and plug in and walk away with the show. If you want a higher quality recording you will need to invest in a higher end recorder BUT you can come in with any device that has a record in and record a show. You can bring in a home stereo tape deck if you want, I even provide AC power.


When The Breakfast played here NO TAPERS showed up to tape the show.
NONE.


Had anyone shown up to tape the show they would have gotten a copy of it.
Our signal path is purposefully set up so that if there is a problem with our recording the path to the patch bay is unaffected.

We did capture the entire first set and about half of the second set before the recorded stopped, but in any case it is not the venues responsibility to record the shows for the band or the fans. We do our best to get the artists copies of the shows free of charge (other venues charge the band for recordings - Recher Theater charges $40.)

The show didn\'t get taped becuase no tapers showed up.

Now what you don\'t know is that Dave posted on Taperssection.com to recruit someone to tape the show. I responded to that post with a private message saying I would be glad to help him if he didn\'t find a taper. I got no response to that email. But I went out of my way to make the effort to set something up with him.

I wholeheartily support any tapers who take a stand and boycott The 8X10 becuase of my "no mics - house patchbay only" policy. I also feel strongly in favor of standing up for your beliefs, so I can empathize. If they would rather miss a show then come to the show and get a 1/2 soundboard 1/2 room mic matrix recording through my patchbay then that is their choice. Many tapers have said things like "his mics are better then mine, and the recording sounds as good or better then mine, but I still won\'t go."
Many more have come plugged in and had nothing but good things to say. In fact I rarely hear any complaints from those tapers who have tried it.

As for the TLG boards...Several issues were suggested to me through the TLG taping community. I listened to them all, followed that advice and it greatly improved the tape quality.

I have always offered to work together with the taping community. I asked for any and all comments on how to make the situation the best it could be short of allowing people to use their own mics. I even offered the venue as a laboratory to experiment with different mic placement and adding mics to do 5.1 recordings. To date no one has taken me up on that. I even said that whenever it doesn\'t interfere with the operation of the sound they can use the monitor board to MIX the taper feed. Again to date, no takers.

Often The 8X10 records the show, burns 50 copies and hands them out to the crowd. For free. We just did that every week of the 8 week residency for The Bridge, a local band who is starting to open for some prominent national acts.

I am writing all of this so that you know both sides of the story.

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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2006, 02:31:22 pm »
i think its very cool of you to try to open up the tapability (new word) of shows to the non-taper. but, if i\'ve invested thousands of dollars in my rig and you tell me i can\'t use my rig, i\'m not sure i want to bother with you. i did have a friend who was going to tape the show, but because it was your place (and somewhat because of the weather, truth be told), he ended up bailing out. i didn\'t quite realize why until i saw dave\'s post. like i said, if it turns off more tapers than it brings in, why do it? especially since you really seem to support taping live music. and lord knows the last thing we need being spread around are some random dude\'s mp3 recordings, when there could be gorgeous ambient tapes instead. and while a decent matrix is usually quite good, some of the serious tapers prefer to record the room over the soundboard feed. taping should be a recreation of the entire event, after all. i for one prefer a room mix over a sbd every single time. like i said, matrixes can usually be good, but i\'ve never heard nor seen a single show from the 8x10 around since your policy began. and considering that you\'re the only decent mid-sized venue in the entire dc/baltimore region, it kinda sucks to think of all the great music that will be missed.

i assume the reasoning is that the club\'s not that big and you don\'t want mics/rigs to interfere with other\'s enjoyment of the show. and that\'s 100% valid. but, why can\'t they clamp to the rail in the upper level? tapers know, accept and even pride themselves on getting to the venue early, waiting in line and scrambling for the sweet spot. that gets them off. go figure. so, while you\'re trying to help the lesser guy, you\'re turning off the good tapers out there. and that just seems like a self-contradictory policy. yes, we want you to tape, but only our way, which people don\'t like, so they don\'t tape.

catch-22, i guess.

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« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2006, 03:21:40 pm »
our policy is first and foremost an issue of space. Turning taping on to the layman is secondary to that.

You said "if i\'ve invested thousands of dollars in my rig and you tell me i can\'t use my rig, i\'m not sure i want to bother with you." Well first off, that would be your choice, one of choosing your equipment over the band.

BUT you can still use everything in your rig except your stands and mic. I have had tapers bring in their preamps and D/A converters and use them with the current setup.

I get your point though, and can only say it is a personal choice. I just want it to be clear that it is not a situation where a boycott is against NO TAPING. It is a boycott against I CAN\'T USE MY MICROPHONES.

you said "it kinda sucks to think of all the great music that will be missed."
I couldn\'t agree more. But it doesn\'t have to be. And the quality of tape you can pull from the current setup is one that anyone versed in audience live recordings would enjoy. I have to think about all the patrons. I would suggest that you get a copy of a recent show and then make a decision about the quality of the recording before assuming you wouldn\'t like it. Email me and I will send you some.

But the situation is this, I have to think about the public as a whole not just the tapers. The sweet spot should be available to EVERYONE not just the tapers. I have set up a system where if the music is your goal you can get it easily.

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« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2006, 03:29:58 pm »
fair enough! :)