Why Does Paul Ryan Tape Things And Never Release Them?

[Todd]

Like he said, he WILL be releasing it!!! With the show that it was a part of. Quite your whiney bitching!!!!!

[freddiewaht]

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[Wolfman]

nobody outside of the band or people who helped collect material knew about it before set break. It was only played once - we didn\'t even have a screening preshow because the toads equipment was in such bad condition, and if it wasn\'t for the help of ellis and steve and a miracle in rewiring the place, it would not have played at all. It was announced to stick around between sets. If you left and missed it, so  be it. The 20th phish video only got out because people were illegally video bootlegging the show. This will be released when the show is released. It was part of the show, it will stay part of the show. I will release the show when I finish it, and seeing how (along with everything I and most everyone else has ever done for the breakfast), I have not been paid for any work, ever this included. That means this is a project I will get to when I have time after I finish work that pays me. I\'m not independenly wealthy, video takes a LONG time to edit and i don\'t care if your pissed off because you missed it. You can all call me whatever the hell you want to, I don\'t really care.

To summarize this here\'s the reason we can\'t see the video:
The montage video will be a special feature to help sell the 1000th show DVD.[/U]  OK, fair enough.  Donating your personal hard work vs. trying to make some money off of it is a matter of personal preference and neither way is wrong.  And if the band eventually makes money off of the DVD sales then there\'s benefit in that.    

I will give in to the "We\'re saving it for the DVD" explanation for now.  However, considering the disappointment of fans who couldn\'t see it along with the loss of exposure that this explanation brings, there should be an obligation to release the 1000th show DVD within the next 6 months.  I think that\'s fair to everyone.

[Spacey]

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I thought you retired from the boards?

[FrankZappa]

I\'ll get to it when i get to it. I\'m not going to adhere to a schedule just because you say that\'s when it should be out. Like I said, this stuff takes a shitload of time and I don\'t make any money off of it. Therefor, it will be done eventually, but I can\'t drop work that is paying me to do something for free just because you say so.

[Wolfman]

I said there "should be an obligation", I didn\'t say you have to do anything.  I was just trying to imply that given the short-term costs of fan disappointment and loss of exposure, the "saving it for the DVD" explanation will look pretty lame if two years from now there\'s no DVD.

[freddiewaht]

I\'ll get to it when i get to it. I\'m not going to adhere to a schedule just because you say that\'s when it should be out. Like I said, this stuff takes a shitload of time and I don\'t make any money off of it. Therefor, it will be done eventually, but I can\'t drop work that is paying me to do something for free just because you say so.

ok.
give it to me and ill make it available for download.
your work will be done.
thanks in advance,
f.ferrara

[mattgilhuly]

I said there "should be an obligation", I didn\'t say you have to do anything.  I was just trying to imply that given the short-term costs of fan disappointment and loss of exposure, the "saving it for the DVD" explanation will look pretty lame if two years from now there\'s no DVD.

Wolf,

You should invest in the production of the video.  You pay production costs and take a piece of gross profits after its paid for.  That way Paul can do work he gets paid for or if he\'s as busy as i know he is you can hire him some help.  And since you\'ll be funding the venture you\'ll have lots of control over the timetable.

And Fred, I know its summer, but could you give my daughter a ride to tennis lessons three days a week.  I think everyone, especially me would appreciate it:)

I know, I\'m a douchebag, but this is about time and money.  Money is elastic, time is not.  Show people some money in exchange for their valuable time and you may be able to create some heat and light on this.  Otherwise ya git what ya git when ya git it

[Me!]

Let me say this just to get it outta the way, chances are this will not be available for sale, unless a few things are taken out.

Def for trade and download but I highly doubt it will be sold.

[Spacey]

Let me say this just to get it outta the way, chances are this will not be available for sale, unless a few things are taken out.

Def for trade and download but I highly doubt it will be sold.

I beg to differ. I am going out on a limb here and saying this might be the 1st official full DVD of a Breakfast show that will be an official release.

[Me!]

It would certainly have to be edited down, they don\'t technically "own" certain songs

[davepeck]

It would certainly have to be edited down, they don\'t technically "own" certain songs

my guess is that if it were to happen, they\'d suck it up and pay the royalties, rather than release a hacked up version of their 1000th show. considering that 2 of the 3 covers played were part of huge segues, and the other featured tim smashing the guitar at the end of it, removing these songs from the performance would make it worthless.

[Me!]

It would certainly have to be edited down, they don\'t technically "own" certain songs

my guess is that if it were to happen, they\'d suck it up and pay the royalties, rather than release a hacked up version of their 1000th show. considering that 2 of the 3 covers played were part of huge segues, and the other featured tim smashing the guitar at the end of it, removing these songs from the performance would make it worthless.

exactly IF, but I also mean Puppetry and Buquebus and Drunk Monk

[wildcoyote]

but I also mean Puppetry and Buquebus and Drunk Monk

Heh?  Splain please.

[Me!]

Sonace records owns them, technically