If you REALLY like the Breakfast....

[jking]

but klout, he didn\'t scold anyone. he very politely asked folks to use their heads a bit more so that the band is unduly affected. whether anyone was overly uptight or not, the reality of the situation is that the band caught flack for the fans, they could potentially lose out on being able to play a great venue for them. whether the hotel/venue has a point is completely irrelevant. and again, its not like steffmo was condemning anyone or saying that the folks there were being evil or anything, he just asked to be more mindful of the potential consequences of their actions.

[sallyalli]

ummm...you were not there. How can you way that the band took flack for the fans when you dont even know what went down...dont toss the blame when you dont know what your talking about.

[princesscaspian]

whether anyone was overly uptight or not, the reality of the situation is that the band caught flack for the fans, they could potentially lose out on being able to play a great venue for them.

wow, weird, i dont remember seeing you at the show or hotel....




honestly, there were a handful of people there, and a handful of people who know what went down, steffmo EXCLUDED. i think your efforts would more effective and appreciated at finding the band some shows that start later than 5pm....

i\'m all about not being an asshole (which is why i put a separate non party room in my name) and i think its absurd that fans have to get completely  blamed for something that was partially our fault. sure, we *ALL* partied, and the room was a mess, but don\'t just assume its just the fans right away!!! honestly, this is unjustified defamation....

be a good person, clean up your mess, and do onto others as you would want done onto you.

 trust me, EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY.

[Steffmo]

Well Klout....I actually find your position to be totally.....clown shoes.

I simply don\'t want the band...who\'s best interests I am supposed to look out for, to either bet billed for hotel damages or to accumulte a reputation as a band that trashes hotels.  I didn\'t accuse anyone specific.  I simply asked the group as a whole to give it some thought and to keep in mind the fact that all of our actions have an effect on others.

Yes, I admit its a 60\'s sort of throwback concept....having some oncern for the next person....but i was brought up that way and I\'ll stand by the concept.

[leith]

While I totally agree w/ the spirit of this thread. I think it is a bit much.
Come on now the band and fans are completely seperate entities when it comes to hotel rooms.
 I can understand if fans trashed the VENUE but hotel rooms? PFFFFFT!!!!!!!

How can any hotel ASSUME that any room that was trashed NOT in the Band\'s name was caused by said band\'s fans?

As for policing fans @ shows isn\'t that venue security\'s problem?

Oh and having the grassroots team named The Wild Pack just goes to show the mentality of the band and it\'s fans.

That is to rage it as hard as possible @ every Breakfast show.

Shit has happened, is happening and will continue to happen w/ this group.
Thanx for reminding us about personal accountability but alcohol is a hellava drug!

[Rujah]

so what excatly did happen to cause such a fuss among the hotel, venue and the band?

[FreeSpirit]

:idunno:

[Me!]

:lol: that about sums it up.....

[Todd]

:lol: that about sums it up.....

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