justin, what\'s the problem man? i would think you of all people would understand the concept of thinking of people other than ourselves and having a little consideration. even if this was a gross overreaction on the venue/hotel\'s part, what is the problem with bringing up the idea of cleaning up after ourselves? A maid\'s job is to make the beds and replace the towels and tidy the place up so it looks nice for the next visitor. A maid\'s job shouldn\'t have to be to clean up broken glass, vomit, cigarette butts, empties, etc. I guess my point has less to do with this incident if i should even call it that, but it\'s more of a general call to think about our brothers and sisters more. It feels good to help someone else even if it\'s as simple as not leaving a hotel room a disgusting mess. I\'ve been to a number of bfast hotey parties, some more wild than others. We\'re all good hearted people, we just sometimes dont completely think things through, which is common and I dont hold it against anyone. It\'s just that maybe this backlash the band has gotten from the venue can serve as an opportunity for us to better ourselves as human beings. Now Justin, I dont think that\'s retarded or stupid at all.