Just why is the crowd so important to some Breakfast fans?

[Me!]

I\'ve had many occasions on this last run where I was right up front literally pushed against the stage and I would still turn around to just take in the whole crowd to see a sea of people moving each individually all together, is an amazing thing to see, so even if you are up font turn around everyonce and awhile and take it all in it\'s a site to be seen

[Todd]

so even if you are up font turn around everyonce and awhile and take it all in it\'s a site to be seen

Absolutely!!!!!

[derickw]

i personally don\'t really interact with anyone during shows, maybe I\'m antisocial or something but i walk all around the venue taking in the whole scene. i probably only see the people i actually go to the show with maybe 3-4 times over the course of the night. Leith if you were at the show last night you would have seen what an insane crowd can evoke. after these past couple days i can imagine how beat the guys were coming into this show but i think the energy level of the crowd was through the roof and personally that collective energy brought me higher than i was going into the show. I personally feel alittle bad for you from reading this. but to each his/her own on there participation in the scene as a collective. I don\'t see the crowd as the final deciding factor of a good show but it is a big part of the sound and the collective reciprocating energy flowing through everyone in the room.

[Igziabeher]

I don\'t really talk to anyone all that much during shows, but have casual interactions w/ the people i\'m around all throughout.  i can give specific examples of back to back nights where 1 show was far better because of the energy of the crowd.  it really matters, why\'s ron spears gonna be amped to play music for people who aren\'t really paying much attention?  its just not gonna happen, that in itself will destroy a show in comparison to some of the more ser ragers.  when all 4 of them are firing on all cylinders, thats when the good shit goes down, and you get that a whole lot more often when the crowd are eating up every second of it.

[leith]

Yeah well as I said before I am there mainly for the music. How many times in a show do you find me yapping w/ someone? Not many and that is how I choose to enjoy my Breakfast. Just because it is different does not mean I need pity or am missing out. I make plenty of "connections" w/ my friends b4 the show, setbreak, and late nite.

I don\'t "yap" with my friends much while the band is playing. And "the connection" I am talking about is when you are in the middle of a bunch of people you know, the band is ripping a tune to another dimension, your mind is melting, you look around and can see and feel that everyone you know feels the same way. This is what sets one show apart from another to me. AND, I never said anything about pitying you! Capeesh?

Yeah well I should hope as their main photographer they would play up for you. Good shots=Good publicity

Yes, but they also do this the entire show, as long as they have a crowd to interact with. A crowd standing there not moving= band still playing great, but not moving around with silly antics, etc, etc. A crowd going nuts over the music, dancing and flailing around with hands in the air= band going nuts with them. Energy + energy= incredible show. Capeesh?

Yeah that "connection" happens every once in awhile w/ a hi five or shared look of amazement but it is not notching the show up for me. It adds to the experience but is not a factor for me as much as the music.

Yeah well take Tempe. The crowd was all about the band and they played like crap(so they thought). The crowd was eating it up and the band was interacting w/ those up front like every other night.
What happened? The crowd was all sorts of pumped and were giving energy to the band.

So the equation Energy +energy=incredible show is not always correct.

I get the whole bonding w/ friends etc. but that happens EVERY show so how can it matter in the playing?
Well I guess we can agree to disagree about the importance of a crowd to a show\'s memory.
Oh and it\'s capisce. I\'m as non italian as they come and I knew that.

[Todd]

Well I guess we can agree to disagree about the importance of a crowd to a show\'s memory.

:that:

Oh and it\'s capisce. I\'m as non italian as they come and I knew that.

I\'m SSSOOOO far from Italian, but, from Dictionary.com:

1 entry found for capeesh.
Main Entry:     capeesh
Part of Speech:     interjection
Definition:     do you understand?
Example:     I will call you when dinner is ready. Capeesh?
Etymology:     Italian capisce `understand\'

[Me!]

So the equation Energy +energy=incredible show is not always correct.

of course not, as much as we like to think so not every single show is gonna be as great as say sat night in boston was, but it\'s almost definately not gonna happen if there is no crowd there, those days seem to be gone, when they played in front of a couple people and didnt\' give a shit, they\'d still play as though 400 people were there, but they\'ve been at it too long now, to look out and not see a healthy representation is gonna set the show in another direction for them, it completley and totally changes the setlist, # of people in the audience is directly related to the songs they will play

[Gordo]

So the equation Energy +energy=incredible show is not always correct.

of course not, as much as we like to think so not every single show is gonna be as great as say sat night in boston was, but it\'s almost definately not gonna happen if there is no crowd there, those days seem to be gone, when they played in front of a couple people and didnt\' give a shit, they\'d still play as though 400 people were there, but they\'ve been at it too long now, to look out and not see a healthy representation is gonna set the show in another direction for them, it completley and totally changes the setlist, # of people in the audience is directly related to the songs they will play

absolutely.. and setlists definitely have an energy meter.. not to mention if theres noone there they may only play one set thats fairly long as opposed to two.

[leith]

So the equation Energy +energy=incredible show is not always correct.

of course not, as much as we like to think so not every single show is gonna be as great as say sat night in boston was, but it\'s almost definately not gonna happen if there is no crowd there, those days seem to be gone, when they played in front of a couple people and didnt\' give a shit, they\'d still play as though 400 people were there, but they\'ve been at it too long now, to look out and not see a healthy representation is gonna set the show in another direction for them, it completley and totally changes the setlist, # of people in the audience is directly related to the songs they will play

Why Thank You Chris. That actually put a spin on it I had not really thought about. I totally see these guys as music machines and am used to them just going out and kicking ass.
Your mentioning that they have been doing this awhile and they may not blow doors just for the sake of doing so to an empty room is a very valid point. Thanx!

[Me!]

wait a minute have we just agreed on something?  did I just get transported to bizaro world and if so am I bizaro chris or are you bizaro leith?

[leith]

wait a minute have we just agreed on something?  did I just get transported to bizaro world and if so am I bizaro chris or are you bizaro leith?

Just a momentary glitch in the matrix bro.