though I can\'t understand the appeal of cars driving in a circle for hours, I will give credit to the fans, they do love their umm. . . recreational activity, yea, that works. Die hards will argue nascar until their last breathe if you make one negative comment about it. Kinda like Breakfast fans I guess. As for horse racing, the one time I went to the Belmont was absolutely insane as far as parties go; car bombs at 10am = wonderful breakfast, going to the casino after last call until 5:00am the night before = not a smart move. But I believe they don\'t allow BYOB there anymore which is why spacebrush and co. don\'t have the bus trip anymore.