Why do YOU think The Breakfast hasn\'t blown up yet???

[Dyed_Tie]

I think Tim has more Zappa in him than Trey and a whole lot of Eddie Van Halen.  But really Tim is his own guitarist as all the other members of the band are their own musicians too.

The real reason the band is so great is how much they gel together.  I\'ve never heard a guitarist and drumer so in tune rhythmically ever before.  Ron\'s got some ridiculous licks flying on his bass and Jordan adds so much depth with his keys, not to mention he can play a helluva lotta notes too.  

I still think they are on the right track.  Keep touring, keep writing, and keep melting people\'s faces.  I mean these guys can go across the country and still draw a crowd.  That\'s no small feat people.  Sure they aren\'t headlining Bonaroo but they definitely are going places.  San Fran being one of those.  

This may be an ill-informed comment so correct me if I am mistaken but it seems to me that tB\'s type of entertainment cannot take hold in the wasteland that is middle America.  You could even say just stay away from the Red States and you\'d be pretty close to finding where the fans are.  I mean besides Colorado, Louisiana, Missouri (don\'t want to piss off the St Louis fans again), Iowa and maybe Ohio  I can\'t find any other Red States I would even bother in.  

Play in the places where Jazz developed, New Orleans and Chicago (not mentionaing NY because you know you have to play there anyway).  Play where there is a lot of liberal minded (i.e. sane) people, Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin.  Go to Detroit (Motown) then they can play Detroit Rock City for a little Kiss tribute.   Play in Colorado if only for Jack Kerouac.  Then just stick to the West Coast and North East (like DC and all points North).  That\'s where they\'ll build enough fans that will really be into it.  Soon enough all those fans will will create enough of a gravitational pull to suck the good ones out of the Red States and they\'ll be all set.  Also I know the last time they were in Canada it didn\'t work out stupendously but I think they can catch on there if they toured the area heavily (i.e. Montreal / Toronto).

:disclaimer:  The previous post is a little ridicuous, has little basis in fact and does not reflect the views of thebreakfast.info.    

[Whineberg]

I wasn\'t going to say anything, but I certainly third that emotion having seen 270 Grateful Dead shows myself!!!

[Steffmo]

You all make some good points...including issues such as management inconsistancies.  But after this midwest swing I think the whole thing will be  much more solidified.  
As to the name...when someone like John Topper...(Moe\'s mgr.) says "I\'ll never book then with a name like PB, its time to change it.
As far as intensity....well, you either like it or not.  Can\'t please everyone.
As to the band as a whole, as good as you all thought the band WAS, its pretty obvious the have gotten a lot better.  Its subtle...but the singing is better, the writing is better, and the playing...as hot as before, now has a bit of timing and patience, which lots of folks appreciate.

I said it before this tour...if the wheels stay on the car through the end of the year, the band witll go big.

[jking]

Go Big or don\'t go at all!!!

[Dyed_Tie]

[BANANA]Go Hard or go Home!!!!!!![/BANANA]

[obsession600]

I said it before this tour...if the wheels stay on the car through the end of the year, the band witll go big.

I believed it then and I feel even more sure now. I am so glad to hear that they have been getting good crowds during this tour.

[Gfunk]

As to the band as a whole, as good as you all thought the band WAS, its pretty obvious the have gotten a lot better.  Its subtle...but the singing is better, the writing is better, and the playing...as hot as before, now has a bit of timing and patience, which lots of folks appreciate.

I said it before this tour...if the wheels stay on the car through the end of the year, the band witll go big.

Aaabsolutely the breakfast is on fire! i cant wait until the 4/20 run. it seems like the band is blowing up in btown.

[Rujah]

btown run should be off the hook, you will definitely see me there both nights, if anyone has any room and is arriving early and wouldnt mine picking me up.  So what night are they playing upstairs??

[FrankZappa]

I said it before this tour...if the wheels stay on the trailer through the end of the year, the band will go big.

Fixed it for ya!

[Todd]

I said it before this tour...if the wheels stay on the trailer through the end of the year, the band will go big.

Fixed it for ya!

They better have a @#%$&^# spare by now!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Igziabeher]

Topper sucks.

A couple of takes from me:

As Leith and Chris were talking about the rapid fanbase growth, I gotat go w/ Chris and I like the slow progression.  There are bands w/in the jamband scene that shootup big because of the next big thing monicker, but I feel it rarely pays off.  SCI did in \'00 when Phish went on Hiatus, as did UM, and now TLG, but I don\'t think any of these bands will be able to maintain they\'re followship because they get a lot of bandwagon hoppers.  Bands like moe. and the Biscuits slowly built up their crowds over the years w/o one giant step and I think they\'re better for it.  Whether you like \'em or not, these fans are loyal as all hell and are in it for the long run, as many of us Breakfast fans are.  Then you get the bands like Robert Randolph or Matisyahu who get a lot of interest because they\'re able to get recognition outside the jamband scene, but the Breakfast\'s music isn\'t condusive to that really.

As far as their touring goes, yes, they are getting back on track finally, but they still got a little ways to go.  I think they need to take more advantage of Festival seasons and get on real festival lineups.  Its cool to see them headlining the smaller festivals don\'t get me wrong, but they need to land more supporting roles at well known festivals like All Good or High Sierra and the likes.  Last year was good w/ 10KLF and moe.down, but they need to do more of that.  They should also work better w/ other bands, specifically larger bands.  Granted, We all prefer when the Breakfast play full headlining shows, but if they opened or played after parties for bands like moe., Phil, UM, the Biscuits or whatever, then you get the chance for more people to get out there and find out first hand that the Breakfast owns these other bands.  You can\'t really deny it when you see them play an aftershow thats better than the main event.  Hell, my first show was a Mule afterparty, and I may not be the fan I am now if it wasn\'t for Gov\'t Mule.

[Me!]

^^Brilliant

[Igziabeher]

^^Brilliant

thank you, thank you.

thats why i should be tour manager;)

Case in point:

The first week of June, moe. is doing a 4 night run w/ North Mississippi Allstars opening.

06/07/06
Wed  Saranac Brewery
Utica, NY
North Mississippi Allstars will open            

06/08/06
Thu  Bank of America Pavilion
Boston, MA
North Mississippi Allstars will open            

06/09/06
Fri  Festival Pier at Penn\'s Landing
Philadelphia, PA
North Mississippi Allstars will open            

06/10/06
Sat  Wolf Trap Filene Center
Vienna, VA
North Mississippi Allstars will open  


All those shows probably end around 11.  The Breakfast could play the Electric Company, downstairs at the Middle East and the Khyber on those first 3 nights and advertise the shit out of it and all 3 can be huge shows for them.   Dudes from the other two bands could come down and check them out afterwards, and even sit in and all 3 would be amazing nights of music.  All of which would help out the Breakfast\'s quest for more regocnition and even maybe get them the chance to play future things like this.  I\'ve seen Claypool, Galactic and soon to be NMAS all open for moe. at Fleetboston and just think how cool would it be to see the Breakfast play an hour and a half opening set in a venue of that size.  Also w/ things like the Big Summer Classic last year, more bands are gonna try to throw together a nice lineup and play outdoor ampitheaters in the Summertime, and most those bands are nowhere near as good as the Breakfast.  I\'d love seeing them play an hour or even longer at a place like the Meadows or Great Woods and it isn\'t something thats out of the picture these days.

[Overexjoesure]

Igzi, you just want moe. and Breakfast ters to sync up

As for the UM quote I totally disagree witrh you. UM has been slowly building their fanbase ever since their inception at Notre Dame. They\'re just starting to gain momentum on the East Coast where they used to have little to no crowds. The same goes for Bisco. They used to play shitty venues in the midwest to small crowds, now they\'re playing theaters and ballrooms. It\'s all about primary location. UM will be around for a long time as will Bisco.... Tea Leith Green on the other hand  

I like your ideas Greg about leeching off the moe. shows.  This is exactly how Bisco gained their following when Phish was around!!  I think Um did so as well, at least during midwest dates.  Aftershow parties are the heat during the summer. It\'s the long, late night>early morning sets that get talked up the next day. Considering The Breakfast are the sole performers of PCP rock I say someone needs to get on the phone with the new booking agent and work on this stat!!

[Igziabeher]

it can be done in any circumstance w/ a number of bands, that was just my primary example.