Wed. 3/8 - St. Louis - CANCELLED

[helluvahat]

Men\'s College Basketball Atlantic 10 Tournament

St. Joe\'s: 56, St. Louis: 37

The city of St. Louis loses again.  tough week!

[Feet_Down]

the list is long and dirty, maybe i\'ll show it to you sometime.

Keep your long and dirties to yourself sicko. :biggrin:

And, this Feet person. What in the hell does pikes mean? That some Mizzou word?

I took the liberty of looking it up for yew and no, I\'ve actually never heard anyone around here say it.  

1. Piker      link  send  redefine   25 up, 5 down
When someone fails to meet the expectations (go out, drink, party nething expected on a weekend apart from sleep) fails to last an interval of time.
"Jim went to Piked last night at 11 instead of going out" "Complete Piker"
by anonymous Jun 26, 2003
2. piker    link send redefine 10 up, 10 down
A person who gives the minimal effort in anything. Someone who asks how much vacation they get right away at their job. A total fucking hoo haa. aka Gabe Rohwedder.
If you wanna be a piker and not make any scrilla, then go home.
by Fratch Diesel Jun 10, 2003
3. piker    link send redefine 4 up, 4 down
one who will request an event, yet at the time of actualization for the event, they cancel.
Miss B requested an orgy, but at the time they were offered such a sexual event, they became a piker.
by anarchy May 6, 2003
4. Piker    link send redefine 1 up, 5 down
a complete fool, lacking any awareness or motivation.
I just had an appointment with another lawyer. He didn\'t know half as much as he thought he did. What a Piker.....
by gw Jul 23, 2003
5. piker    link send redefine 4 thumbs down
Someone who bums out of a party or other occasion altogether, or leaves early after pretending not to pike.
Oh gee mij, you\'re such a piker! ;-)
by muhaha Mar 13, 2003
6. piker    link send redefine 5 thumbs down
Similar use as the term pikey.
Same use as the term pikey.
by SnottyIrishman Wisconsin Aug 2, 2005
7. piker    link send redefine 6 up, 11 down
A mofo who disconnects from the internet early in the evening.
OMFG PIKER
by Dev May 7, 2003
8. piker    link send redefine 8 up, 13 down
Someone who avoids his friends so he can hang out on the net, because he\'s too slack to do otherwise.
Ilkka would prefer to sit at home on the net than come see X-men 2 with us... he\'s suck a piker!
by Mark Reow May 4, 2003
9. piker    link send redefine 1 up, 6 down
Settlers headed west, "Pikes Peak or Bust", inexperienced people out of thier element. Same as greenhorn or pilgrim.
I wasn\'t born yesterday, I\'m not some piker.
by Aerocat Apr 24, 2003
10. piker    link send redefine 1 up, 6 down
vegie
veige is a piker

And, I\'m going out on a limb here, and cant confirm until an admin/mod checks, but I\'m gonna have to conclude that this is your 3rd sign up today?

Wrong again genius.  :wedgie:

[davepeck]

what would be really weak sauce is if the band did not play a show in St. Louis on the way back east.  The 1st through fifth of april is a slow couple of days in the lou, so hopefully we can get some breakfast.

i agree that it would be a nice sentiment, but i believe they NEED to get back home after being out west for some reason, which is why no shows are scheduled on the way back. also, it\'s not horrible, but it\'s still kind of short notice to book a show 3 weeks in advance. not always the easiest thing to do.

[Feet_Down]

Sorry to be so late in commenting on this, but I wanted to be absolutely sure of what I wanted to say, and have as much information as possible.

So, let me start here.  I\'ve been a professional in this business for almost 40 years, and I played more shows in the 70\'s and 80\'s than many play in an entire career.  I didn\'t take the stage once....and I was in the hospital for that.  So it should be clear that my preference would have been for the band to do a light acoustic kind of thing and make it work.

But, they are in the thick of it, so I have to assume it was pretty grim when they got there.  They don\'t tend to be reactive, so they didn\'t feel they could put on the show that peeps expect, and that they expect from themselves.  Alex talked to the promoter...who was frankly not all that freaked, and who admitted that this was NOT the first time this had happened.  At any rate, the date was given to the promoter based on it being at The Venice, but by the time he moved it we had little choice but to accept it.  We could have cancelled, and in retrospect maybe that should have been done, but who knew.

I can\'t reveal inside business stuff like what the gig paid, but it was the weakest show on the tour anyway....the one I had to wonder about.  But, when you are lining up a tour you want to leave as few dead spots as possible, so the date was left.  

So, I officially apologize to the fans that went, and the fans in general.  But this wasn\'t done to dis the fans; if anything the band did not want to put on a substandard show FOR the fans.

Hang in, this is going to be sn excellent tour.

That\'s the best explanation that could be mustered up?  I\'m curious as to what could have been so grim that they felt they couldn\'t work through it?

[Drew_Kingsley]

That\'s the best explanation that could be mustered up?  I\'m curious as to what could have been so grim that they felt they couldn\'t work through it?

Clearly nothing said or done here short of a blowjob is going to satisfy you.  Why not take your business elsewhere... you\'re not "proving a point" anymore.  The Breakfast cancelled the show scheduled for my 21st birthday.  I was pissed for about 10 minutes too.  Then I grew up.

[Steffmo]

Some things that upset bands who have drive 1500 miles for a gig:

1) No stage at all  2) Totally inadequate PA 3) no posters in club or outside club

There are very few things more disheartening to a band that driving that pulling into that situation.  It just takes the air right out of you.

Even the PROMOTER indicated that this was NOT the first time a band had pulled up, and pulled out.  And I wouldn\'t mind knowing what happened at The Venice House as well.

Again, as much as I would have liked a differet outcome, and do apologize to the fans, I also understand bands well enough to accept what happened.  The Breakfast have dealt with enough bad situations that if Ron Spears tells me it was unworkable, it probably was.

[Feet_Down]

That\'s the best explanation that could be mustered up?  I\'m curious as to what could have been so grim that they felt they couldn\'t work through it?

Clearly nothing said or done here short of a blowjob is going to satisfy you.  Why not take your business elsewhere... you\'re not "proving a point" anymore.  The Breakfast cancelled the show scheduled for my 21st birthday.  I was pissed for about 10 minutes too.  Then I grew up.

STFU turd.

[Drew_Kingsley]

Irony defined: Feet_Down calling me a crybaby.

Idoicy defined: Feet_Down calling me a turd.

[derickw]

holy shit what a waste of time that was. my head hurts and my eyes are burning. get over it, move on, the tour will continue.

[Feet_Down]

Some things that upset bands who have drive 1500 miles for a gig:

1) No stage at all  2) Totally inadequate PA 3) no posters in club or outside club

There are very few things more disheartening to a band that driving that pulling into that situation.  It just takes the air right out out of you.

Q: Shouldn\'t those details be worked BEFORE the DOS, especially if it\'s a show stopper?  

A: Yes.  

So the PA was inadequate and there wasn\'t a raised stage.  Decent reasons I suppose if you\'re a premadonna with a major ego.  Suck it up, unplug, and do an acoustic set.  Give the people something positive and special to talk about instead of bailing out due to less then ideal circumstances.

No posters?  Are you kidding me?  Does it take their own name on the wall to make them feel good enough about themselves that they\'re able to work through a less then ideal situation?  

Even the PROMOTER indicated that this was NOT the first time a band had pulled up, and pulled out.  And I wouldn\'t mind knowing what happened as The Venice House as well.

It\'s called The Venice Cafe.  It, along with PBM, are two very unique bars in St. Louis.  When you\'re on the ground floor, kinda like these guys are in St. Louis, then you have to work your way up.  They should have leaped at the chance the play either of these rooms.

The Breakfast have dealt with enough bad situations that is Ron spears tells me it wasunworkable, it probably was.

What?

[phishrulez]

St. Joe\'s: 56, St. Louis: 37

The city of St. Louis loses again. tough week!

LOL. burrrrrrn. I think you fans of this band will be the losers in the long run. Not gonna make it in that biz w/ attitudes and egos that are not in check. Try booking another gig in the STL area now that all of the local promoters know the Breakfast work ethic. Bridges have been burned up. Here\'s to another washed up band in the making! Maybe another name change will garner some more fans? It gets better every time. How bout "The \'fast" for an idea? I will eagerly watch this band crash and burn like so many other low-grade noodle bands. Wait til Phish goes back on tour, nobody\'ll know who the \'fast is.

[Feet_Down]

Irony defined: Feet_Down calling me a crybaby.

Idoicydefined: Feet_Down calling me a turd.

Nice job piss flap.

[phishrulez]

Some things that upset bands who have drive 1500 miles for a gig:

1) No stage at all 2) Totally inadequate PA 3) no posters in club or outside club

There are very few things more disheartening to a band that driving that pulling into that situation. It just takes the air right out out of you.

Why the hell would you drive that far w/out knowing about your destination? Sounds like the management is worse than their egos.

[Spacey]

Are you really waiting for Phish to go back on tour?

[Me!]

Here\'s to another washed up band in the making!

Do you really think not making one show in fuckin St. Louis is gonna be the end of the band, hey man they have a great fan base here on the east coast where there\'s 5 or six cities within a 4 hour drive, Fuck St. Louis!!  WE don\'t need you over pretensious the world revolves around me attiude.

Wait til Phish goes back on tour.

DO me a favor start holding your breathe waiting for that one to happen,