Wed. 3/8 - St. Louis - CANCELLED

[freddiewaht]

Joc you have to stop making excuses and blaming other people besides the band.

Here is the bottom line:

The band has a HORRIBLE business sense!

Exposure and fan base mean NOTHING to them if the money is not right.

I can you many specific examples if you want.

They are as bad at running a business as they are good at playing music.

Thats what it comes down to and thats the reason they are still a bar band on the verge of break up after 7 years.

klout,do the right thing here...
you know what that is too..
get over the fact the band isnt playing in oneonta.i mean,theres bigger fish to fry.
you need to bite your tongue.
thanks in advance,
f.ferrara

[Jim Cobb]

what do you mean there\'s bigger fish to fry?  the band drew 26 people two nights ago, you cannot get booked at bigger places with that kinda draw.  you\'re getting ahead of yourself.

[jking]

st louis folks, is Riddle\'s Penultimate Wine Bar & Cafe still open (across from the tivoli)? i loved that place when i lived out there.....


and don\'t forget, while the boys may deserve a better room in NE, they haven\'t played stl for 3 years and should have played whatever gig they had. they should have also talked with the owner to see if smething could be done, or just to let him know for sure so he could make other arrangements. now, it turns out that he was able to get an acoustic duo in, but had he not, the band would have screwed him even more, moneywise. and club/bar owners tend to be long memoried and never seem to like losing money....

[freddiewaht]

i mean,instead of playing oneonta,stick with syracuse/albany.
driving an hour or so wont hurt the "fans".

[Klout]

its not about oneonta freddy.

honestly.

oneonta is an example of what I am talking about though.

So is this thread.

IM phil and ask him what happened with the Fort Collins show if you want another prime example.

I know they are your good good friends but facts are facts dude.

they make bad decisions and its unfortunate because its likely going to result in a waste of HUGE amounts of talent.

[freddiewaht]

youve been harsh since the oneonta thing.
im good at sensing intraweb feelings.

[Rujah]

This week:
[-]3/8 The Breakfast[/-]

Next week:
3/15 Lucinda Williams or Chuck freakin\' Berry!!!  He still plays monthly at a small bar.[/QUOTE]




 lucinda williams is the shit.

there must be nothing to do in ST Louis

I get the point of your post, but take issue with that statement.

This week:
[-]3/8 The Breakfast[/-]

[mr_bojangle]

Hmm, this all seems pretty shitty.  Mike Gordon sat in with some friends at Pop\'s Blue Moon a few years back when he was in town with Leo.  PBM is a great place and I\'m sure that StL would have (did in fact) have a good turnout to see The Breakfast, so for them to cancel last minute really was a bad decision.  I saw Raq at Cicero\'s a few years back and there were 5 people in there.  Chris took it as an opportunity to put his amp on 11 and crank out some *SERIOUS* jams.  I certainly went back to see them several months later with 5 friends.  You are probably starting to see my point...if you are on tour, then you are working to gain some additional fan base and this was clearly not a wise *fan gaining* decision.  I\'m from StL and live here.  Raq hasn\'t come back in a while and their scheduled to stop through MO 4/15 in Columbia, MO, which is about 2 hour drive for me.  I WILL be traveling to see those guys, but may never muster up the desire to catch The Breakfast as a result of their insult to the interested fans of StL.  As was previously mentioned...*thanks for nothing*

[phishermanjohn]

Riddles is  there.  
What local jam bands do u remeber from the lou?

[leith]

go fuck your mother!!!

Are the fans a reflection of the band, or vice versa?

The Breakfast better try the I-80 Iowa/Nebraska route next time....at least there are even fewer people up there for them to alienate.

He\'s just a twat that has his head up the band\'s ass. Don\'t mind him.

[freddiewaht]

go fuck your mother!!!

Are the fans a reflection of the band, or vice versa?

The Breakfast better try the I-80 Iowa/Nebraska route next time....at least there are even fewer people up there for them to alienate.

He\'s just a twat that has his head up the band\'s ass. Don\'t mind him.

interesting..
thats not how it is.
im a fan of the band,and dont like to read them being badmouthed,thats it.
your outta your element,leith.

[Jim Cobb]

you don\'t have to like it.

[Igziabeher]

i think its all kinda funny.  one cancelled gig, no big deal, people\'s lives will go on as they were.  sure it would\'ve been cool to gain a few more fans in st. louis, but they blew their chance, shit happens.  if people are gonna hold it against them and call them classless, thats their issue.

the band are a great bunch of guys and if you found out first hand instead of jumping to conclusions based on one misunderstanding, then you\'re as classless as anyone.  

the porter\'s show when they got new management was cancelled because of what looks to me to be a similar situation and i remember that being dobson\'s call.  so there are millions of ways this could\'ve panned out.

and klout, where do you come off saying the band\'s ego is bigger than their fanbase or whatever?  whats your backup on that one?  cuz i fail to see any signs of an egotistical problem.

[Overexjoesure]

This has got to be one the all around worst fucking decisions the band has made.  The Breakfast supposedly has a growing fanbase in the midwest, birthed from a similar market that made Umphrey\'s.  Midwest folks are kind, dedciated individuals, and I empathize with each and everyone of you, including Fuckthebreakfast.  This band has no fucking road manager, hell, no manager in general and it has got to change or this band will fade away.  There needs to be someone at the helm, pushing them when they want to be coddled, making this band work their fucking ass off on the road.  

If the new booking agent fucked up then GO TO MONTEREY PENINSULA ARTISTS, I cannot stress this efuckingnough.  What really pisses me the fuck off is the fact that TB pretty much burned the bridges that lead to Warkusa., which is turning into one of the hottest festivals on the scene.  There is one thing I have to say at this point to the band and even some of the defending fans:


SWALLOW YOUR FUCKING PRIDE

[Spunk]

all i have to say is Cobb is right.... if you are drawing 26 people... why would you not play a smaller club, just like the breakfast had to graduate to Toads from smaller bars like Cafe Nine..... Remember, you\'re half way acrossed the country.... you havent played the region in 2 full years..... you changed your name.... not to offend anyone, but suck it up,   mic the vocals and kick drum, play your hearts out, and win over a bar full of kids, because next time when you are at Cicero\'s, that bar full of kids will each tell 2 other people and there doubles your crowd.

and Wah, as far as sticking to Syracuse and Albany, most college kids dont have cars, and cant have cars due to college rules until they are jr\'s and sr\'s due to lack of parking, makes it hard for the 175 Oneonta fans, to fit into Klout\'s car..... considering My car is here in Colorado, Erics car is in Troy, and ellis\'s van is in New Haven... All transportation is thrown out the window.... The Breakfast drew as many people to the general clinton Pub as they did to Revolution Hall.

I love the breakfast, and I try to do everything and anything I can to get their name out there, and I always have and I always will But theres a lot of truth to what a lot of people are saying, and its kind of frustrating......

and someone mentioned Raq..... Raq has 1/2 the talent that the breakfast does, and have twice the fan base now, as much as I dont want to admit it. Look at their tour, they must be doing something right