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« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2006, 03:48:37 pm »
my ratio is 30 gigs over :) and I managed to snag the zappa discorgaphy, big cypress flac, a 5 gig biscuits compilation and phish december 95 tour!! woohoo!

I am working on a best of the breakfast 2005 shows upload.

ANy interest? sugesstions?

todd did u ever get an invite? I spaced it my bad

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« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2006, 06:11:35 pm »
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todd did u ever get an invite? I spaced it my bad

Nope....Thanks!!....;)
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« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2006, 09:48:57 pm »
done! make sure you read the rules and keep your ratio up to avoid getting booted.

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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2006, 10:03:09 pm »
Thanks a lot!! Yeah, I know about all that. Thanks for the heads up though!!
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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2006, 11:38:24 pm »
so since all threads relating to the breakfast on oink have been closed/neglected, i\'d like to take it upon myself to ask if anyone out there has an original of the first album or of bona fide for me to upload to oink? i don\'t have anything but burned copies and i\'m worried about gettin kicked off oink, and its absolutely stupid and ridiculous and unbelievable that they aren\'t on oink at all, so if anyone wants to help recruit some new fans and has some original discs, i\'d really appreciate it.... many thanks :)
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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2006, 12:16:29 am »
as far as i know,puttin the band on the pig is highly frowned upon.
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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2006, 12:27:11 am »
yeah i heard some asshole put all the albums on there once. by the way, who has my heady new breakfast album?
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« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2006, 12:45:13 am »
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so since all threads relating to the breakfast on oink have been closed/neglected, i\'d like to take it upon myself to ask if anyone out there has an original of the first album or of bona fide for me to upload to oink? i don\'t have anything but burned copies and i\'m worried about gettin kicked off oink, and its absolutely stupid and ridiculous and unbelievable that they aren\'t on oink at all, so if anyone wants to help recruit some new fans and has some original discs, i\'d really appreciate it.... many thanks :)


Wow. How can someone who is such an avid fan want to screw them? Put their hard work on a site for free when they have asked us not to?

Oh and to make a statement that it is ridiculous for the band\'s copyrighted material not to be on a site where they will recieve no compensation?

Yeah ok so they don\'t lose out on all that much money but it all counts for a band this size.

The argument that it will gain them new fans is not valid in that there is PLENTY of live material in DVD AND CD form which is freely traded and now that the band is a trio better reflects what the band is all about.
Come ON really?
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« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2006, 01:38:52 am »
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Wow. How can someone who is such an avid fan want to screw them? Put their hard work on a site for free when they have asked us not to?

Oh and to make a statement that it is ridiculous for the band\'s copyrighted material not to be on a site where they will recieve no compensation?

Yeah ok so they don\'t lose out on all that much money but it all counts for a band this size.

The argument that it will gain them new fans is not valid in that there is PLENTY of live material in DVD AND CD form which is freely traded and now that the band is a trio better reflects what the band is all about.
Come ON really?


Yeah, spreading the word through whatever means possible is *really* screwing them....

Since Bona Fide is owned by a company that charges the Breakfast royalties for selling their own album (you should read the fine print boys!) and the first album isn\'t even made anymore.... yeah, wow, there goes all the money from album sales. :rolleyes: i\'m not uploading deuce or moxie epoxy or real radio, the fans can buy them at the shows and the breakfast don\'t have to pay anyone before making their profits....

I\'m sure a lot of bands are pissed about their copyrighted material to be freely distributed on a website like oink (hell there are at least 1400 seeders for beck\'s new album)... sure its unfair, i won\'t deny it....but its the wave of the future folks!!!! and i for one am all about embracing change instead of shunning it, and i think there are far greater tragedies than a few people searching for the breakfast and getting some great studio material delivered to them. live shows are fine and dandy, but where my soundboards at? where are the good quality shows?? i for one had no idea what the heck was happening at breakfast shows until i had studio albums burned for me and knew what the band was all about. yeah, lynch me, i\'ve only actually paid for Moxie Epoxy.

whats the difference between uploading to oink or me burning copies of the albums for my friends? either way, the band doesn\'t make money from album sales, but gets some new kids at their shows. seems like a fair deal at this stage in the game....
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« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2006, 01:46:35 am »
not even trying to get into this but I beleive it was the band that requested that everything be taken off of oink.  :walks out of thread never to return:
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« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2006, 02:26:30 am »
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Quote from: leith;125154

Wow. How can someone who is such an avid fan want to screw them? Put their hard work on a site for free when they have asked us not to?

Oh and to make a statement that it is ridiculous for the band\'s copyrighted material not to be on a site where they will recieve no compensation?

Yeah ok so they don\'t lose out on all that much money but it all counts for a band this size.

The argument that it will gain them new fans is not valid in that there is PLENTY of live material in DVD AND CD form which is freely traded and now that the band is a trio better reflects what the band is all about.
Come ON really?


Yeah, spreading the word through whatever means possible is *really* screwing them....

Since Bona Fide is owned by a company that charges the Breakfast royalties for selling their own album (you should read the fine print boys!) and the first album isn\'t even made anymore.... yeah, wow, there goes all the money from album sales. :rolleyes: i\'m not uploading deuce or moxie epoxy or real radio, the fans can buy them at the shows and the breakfast don\'t have to pay anyone before making their profits....

I\'m sure a lot of bands are pissed about their copyrighted material to be freely distributed on a website like oink (hell there are at least 1400 seeders for beck\'s new album)... sure its unfair, i won\'t deny it....but its the wave of the future folks!!!! and i for one am all about embracing change instead of shunning it, and i think there are far greater tragedies than a few people searching for the breakfast and getting some great studio material delivered to them. live shows are fine and dandy, but where my soundboards at? where are the good quality shows?? i for one had no idea what the heck was happening at breakfast shows until i had studio albums burned for me and knew what the band was all about. yeah, lynch me, i\'ve only actually paid for Moxie Epoxy.

whats the difference between uploading to oink or me burning copies of the albums for my friends? either way, the band doesn\'t make money from album sales, but gets some new kids at their shows. seems like a fair deal at this stage in the game....


You want soundboards? Well search for them on Archive there are a few.
Besides it\'s a fallacy anyway that soundboards are the best representation of a band on a given night. It is NOT the mix a person hears at a show and a lot of times aud. copies are better.
I do believe the Breakfast taping community puts out pretty damn great copies of shows you should check \'em out.

As far as the wave of the future? Yeah OK so the future includes condoning theft because one can. :sigh:

Burning a copy of an album a person bought for a friend is different than uploading it to a site. It is a one on one transaction and not a one on thousands.
The point being the band loses say $2 on the former but $2000+ w/ the latter. Still not right but it is more personal and one is more likely to gain fans that way rather than from a site where people just download shit in droves just because it\'s there and most likely only give most of it a cursory listen.

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not even trying to get into this but I beleive it was the band that requested that everything be taken off of oink.  :walks out of thread never to return:


Besides this should be reason enough to end this discussion.
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« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2006, 06:34:31 am »
The band has said in the past, irregarless of if an album is CURRENTLY available for sale, they do not want any officially released (studio or live) material on OINK. If you are as much of a fan as I take you to be, you will respect thier wishes and would find another way to keep your ratio up than screwing over a band you\'re friends with.

If you need to keep your ratio up, go jump on some really hot show that you know everyone wants even if you don\'t care about it. It will only take a few minutes to dl, and if it\'s a hot show, tons of people will be getting it, so your ratio will jump back up. Please do not upload any offically released material to Oink.
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« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2006, 03:44:27 pm »
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As far as the wave of the future? Yeah OK so the future includes condoning theft because one can. :sigh:

Burning a copy of an album a person bought for a friend is different than uploading it to a site. It is a one on one transaction and not a one on thousands.
The point being the band loses say $2 on the former but $2000+ w/ the latter. Still not right but it is more personal and one is more likely to gain fans that way rather than from a site where people just download shit in droves just because it\'s there and most likely only give most of it a cursory listen.



As a full-time worker with a disposable income, its probably easy to frown upon file sharing or "theft" -- however, most people who have oink *dont* and *wont* buy albums, so they will never get the opportunity to hear the breakfast studio recordings. you can\'t necessarily walk into a music store anywhere in the country and pick up a breakfast album.... the truth of the matter is that the target audience that will help the band grow is young, poor, computer-savvy youths who have a tool like oink and use it, exclusively. if they can download the album, they will... if they only can buy it, they *wont*.... at this stage in the game, even a cursory listen is better than none...

i guess i also have an issue with your math... you\'re assuming that the band is moving *thousands* of their albums.... since they don\'t even sell Bona Fide or their self-titled album, your calculations are undisputedly false....

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 If you are as much of a fan as I take you to be, you will respect thier wishes and would find another way to keep your ratio up than screwing over a band you\'re friends with.



it is because i\'m a fan and have the upmost respect for them that i want to see them succeed... since they dont get radio play, and don\'t sell albums in stores, word of mouth is their lifeline at this stage in the game.... (see above for math)

and who said *anything* about ratios? and aren\'t you against file sharing? if you use oink, what gives you the right to criticize me?
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« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2006, 03:50:33 pm »
I am not a fan of this thread, but I would think that if people were "sharing" breakfast albums, that is a good thing considering NOBODY is buying them with the exception for the small number of diehard fans on this site.......

When people start coming to Breakfast shows (and by people I mean more than a hundred or so) and when people start buying Breakfast albums (and by people I mean more than the few fans and friends out there) maybe then we can start worrying about filesharing and copyright infringement...

I am not condoning any of this, but lets be real here......this band is teetering on the fence of extinction.....How long are these kids gonna want to keep makeing records and playing shows for 100 people?
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« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2006, 04:00:50 pm »
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not even trying to get into this but I beleive it was the band that requested that everything be taken off of oink.  


their music their decision, I think that\'s all that matters, we should respect that, wether or not we agree with it
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