A look @ the year of 2 growing bands.

[freddiewaht]

this thread is recockulous.  leith, by no means do i mean to attack you and you have a right to say whatever you want, but what exactly is the point of this thread?  what good do you expect to come of it?

(p.s. you forgot the breakfast\'s spread in relix earlier this year.  sorry if someone else mentioned this, i only read the first and last pages, i assumed the middle looks the same...)

Well It is the end of the year.  A time for reflection and discussion. The fact that another band I follow closely and who are @ the same level of development as The Breakfast skyrocketed past The Breakfast in terms of visibility this year was very surprising to me.
To hear that The Bfast is turning down good gigs pissed me off. I do everything I can to pimp them and they are turning down gigs in their homestate? I call Bullshit.
I am obssessed w/ The Bfast but think of ALL those fans that are not but just really like them. Do you really think a fanbase is going to be there if you are not playing? Come On!
All the posters that have been sooo upset w/ this subject see The Bfast all the time and have side gigs to go to. The rest of the nation does not. I have said this over and over yet this board still thinks the band is fine. It is not. They need to tour and hopefully once the winter is over they will. I am not going to count on it though.
I could have posted this in any number of formats but come on that is not my style you all should know that by now. I will continue to be the malcontent as long as I see no dates past the miss.river. You don\'t like it don\'t read it.

leith,you know nothing..
you a fan of the band.thats great.
we all are.
you dont know a thing about the behind the scenes shit that some of us do know about.no biggie.
all im saying,is one dude in california ranting and bitchin and moanin isnt gonna make anything any better.

[leith]

Fine.
Between songs @ EC and UAC  I\'ll just yell out Hey when you comin\' to Cali. Hey why don\'t you guys tour. You\'re pretty good. Hey take this train out west. etc..

[freddiewaht]

Fine.
Between songs @ EC and UAC  I\'ll just yell out Hey when you comin\' to Cali. Hey why don\'t you guys tour. You\'re pretty good. Hey take this train out west. etc..

i think id almost prefer that..

[Jim Cobb]

everyone\'s being so stubborn and confrontational.  leith, when you\'re over here, why dont you grab a band member and voice your concern to them, or send vic an email or something like that.  i mean you\'ve posted enough on here (4151 times) to know how people react to these kinds of threads.  it obviously does nothing to change the situation so my suggestion would be to get a little more creative in how you plan to do something about this.  because complaining without any action is pointless.  your travels out here show that you care a great deal about this band, i dont doubt your commmitment, but i think that this energy is misdirected towards a group that  you know can be very overly sensitive and childlike, myself included.

[ellis-d]

I dont post anymore because of my ties, but I think I may have a little insight to this extremely arduous thread.  First things first, it Trey and TLG have the same booking agent, then more than anything TLG opening for Trey is a business move, not a "I think you guys are talented move." Anybody who thinks otherwise is very naive.  Secondly, I would not expect any band to acheive great things when they lose their booking agent and struggle to find a new one.  I think considering that, they did farely well with the shows they were able to get.  As far as promotion, and media hype is conscerned, The Breakfast themselves have little to say about that.  Any lack thereof can be chalked up to poor management, and if you think you can do a better job Leith, than why dont you apply for the job.  Have guest sit ins or a spread in a magazine is up to the business men, not the musicians, cause that is the most important thing to remember about this whole thing.  Music is a business, yeah we all love what we do, but money talks, and if you want the guys to come out west, get them a $2000 guarentee somewhere, and im sure it could be arranged.  THink before you speak, cause alot of things you speak of is NOT the bands fault, nor do they have a ton of control over those things.  IF you\'re really that unhappy, or you think you have the answers Bret and ALex\'s phone numbers are right at breakfast.net. GO Bitch at them not us

[Spacey]

This horseshit is stilling being discussed?

[FindYourself...]

opinions:

1. TLG is a pretty good band, but we all know where to go for face owning.

2. why won\'t anyone address the $$$$$$ behind tlg? if the breakfast had the means, they\'d be on tour. period.

3. Timmy tour has made Tim a better singer. if thats not good for the band, what is?

4. If the breakfast opened for trey, don\'t you think there would be huge guest appearances too?  timmy would rip night speaks to a woman to shreds, and no one would have a bigger smile on his face than the red one himself. once oppurtunities like this arise, tB will be all over the place.

[freddiewaht]

dont forget to mention ya old boomerang

[WALSH]

EllisD and Sequoia on the same thread...cool brah.

I LOVED the \'05 musically.  I LOVED the \'05 for the BFam.  Timmy Tour Continues.

[Spacey]

Not to knock the side projects, but sometimes I think and feel that Timmy Tour has taken main priority for whatever reason.

Also, I think some of us have our heads so far up the breakfast\'s asses that we don\'t think so clearly. We tend to gravitate towards putting other band down, just to make us feel better about where the band is currently.

Do we all want to see them suceed? YES


If you all want to see this fucking band be successful. Promote them in every possible way. No jamband is going to get famous or known without touring and filling the house. This band has no finance behind them, they have to do it all themselves. So, next time you plan on going to a show, pass out 100 flyers, give out 20 cds. See the fucking difference it makes.

The problem is NOONE knows this band EXISTS.

Bottom line. So few of us are waiting for the day to come that they will be stars. Well, nothing is easy and if we all sit here and wait, well, we might as well sit on each others thumbs and enjoy the different perspective.

[tmn8r1]

yum..............

[Igziabeher]

even saw the lights of the goodyear blimp and it said \'Timmy P\'s a pimp.\'

[boombox]

yum..............

At last.. a voice of reason!!!! Well said, Tim.

Now, children, can we stop this?

I have just trawled through the last 24 hours/7 pages worth and while some valid points have been made by the even smaller number of our regular posters, this is all getting a bit ridiculous - and all too familiar. Given that we are building in numbers and exposure here - and while we are at it, we should be congratulating dave for giving us this forum and maintaining it  and the guys for continually pushing the boundaries in their shows (be it group or solo!!) - do we really want newbies experiencing the same sort of crap which went down over gray?

[freddiewaht]

i didnt even have to use my ak!!!

[skalnbyc]

I LOVED the \'05 musically.  I LOVED the \'05 for the BFam.

A fans-specified goal of last spring included the band "bringing down the house" at Moe.down and 10,000 Lakes.  I believe that goal was met or exceeded.  

The recent midwest run seems like some serious progress over the year earlier venture to that region.  I don\'t believe there were ever any people willing to travel across state lines to hit all the shows in that region, though a growing contingent of diehards is present and ready to multiply.

As Walsh stated, almost all of the shows this year kicked some serious booty.

I would really like to see the band make it out here, for the same selfish reasons as Leith and also specifically because California in isolation is the 6th largest economy in the world and should be exploited when the opportunity presents itself.