A look @ the year of 2 growing bands.

[bezerker]

^^^  maybe you should have more faith

[freddiewaht]

http://www.tealeafgreen.info   ---------------->thaddaway

[Me!]

^^^^:that:

[leith]

for those of you who have all the fuckin awnsers to this bands lack of  hand me downs,try to find an agent or some rich fuck with fat connects to give US
a break.its easy to get someone like trey or bob weir to sit in w/ your band when you have close ties to them.
do you realy think bands make it based on tallent alone?I THINK NOT!!!

1st off How do you figure TLG has "close ties" to either Bob Weir or Trey Anastasio? They have the same booking agent. Bob sat in during TLG\'s set @ a RAN benefit.
Opening for Trey, Trey liked them due to talent. Had 2 members sit in w/ him for an encore and then another show sat in on a song during their set.
Purely providence @ work there.

2nd I thought you guys had a new booking agent w/ connections?

Of course bands don\'t make it on Talent alone. If that was true this thread would not exist obviously!!!!!!!!!

Chill out and go write a new song. I still love you guys and do not think your lack of progress is due to YOUR lack of trying.
 Man toughlove sux!!

^^^  maybe you should have more faith

Faith is for those that have nothing solid to grab onto.

[freddiewaht]

for those of you who have all the fuckin awnsers to this bands lack of  hand me downs,try to find an agent or some rich fuck with fat connects to give US
a break.its easy to get someone like trey or bob weir to sit in w/ your band when you have close ties to them.
do you realy think bands make it based on tallent alone?I THINK NOT!!!

1st off How do you figure TLG has "close ties" to either Bob Weir or Trey Anastasio? They have the same booking agent. Bob sat in during TLG\'s set @ a RAN benefit.
Opening for Trey, Trey liked them due to talent. Had 2 members sit in w/ him for an encore and then another show sat in on a song during their set.
Purely providence @ work there.

2nd I thought you guys had a new booking agent w/ connections?

Of course bands don\'t make it on Talent alone. If that was true this thread would not exist obviously!!!!!!!!!

Chill out and go write a new song. I still love you guys and do not think your lack of progress is due to YOUR lack of trying.
 Man toughlove sux!!

same booking agent=close ties.
are you ser guy?
find something to do in ca,brah

<<< just listened to 20+minutes off the tlg stream and its not my cup of tea(absolute dogshit)...

[leith]

I\'ll post this again.

 I do not see a stable management base. The band members themselves rarely know what is happening on the tour front. How long have they had booking agents?

I think maybe if I had just made a thread mentioning the lack of progress this year vs what we all EXPECTED I would still have had people pissed but more in agreement.

Having a list of accomplishments by a band in the same stage of development was only to prove a point.
Sorry you all can not face facts and deal w/ your feelings w/o attacking me.

[kindm's]

I am personally aware of at least 1 major throw down for the spring/summer that wants this band to co-bill so to speak with a nationally known act. Not sure if the the conversations with the band have happened yet, but I know the promoter has given a thumbs up and the national act approached these promoters to throw the show. So if the numbes are right I would imagine at least an announcement would come before Jan.


thats all Ill say on the matter.

Musically 2005 was a banner year for the Breakfast. It is just from an attendance perspective no growth. there are a lot of explanations for that and many have been discussed on this very board but the near future is def. looking up

[Drew_Kingsley]

I still love you guys and do not think your lack of progress is due to YOUR lack of trying.

Good to hear.

Chill out and go write a new song.

But didn\'t Leith just say this:

I still love you guys and do not think your lack of progress is due to YOUR lack of trying.

Trying doesn\'t just happen on stage.  I think the band is putting out some great new stuff.  And just because Timmy P. has the official writing credit, it doesn\'t mean that Jordan, Ron, and Adrian don\'t have any part in its development.  I don\'t want to get into a "you don\'t know what I know" thing, because I don\'t have any insider information either, but what the band is writing is something that nobody really knows in full.

Do I feel like, from my perspective, the band should be playing bigger shows?  Yes.  But I don\'t think ANY of us have the knowledge to really assess this, and I don\'t think comparing The Breakfast to a different band in a different market is at all valid.

We have the right to speak as fans, not friends, of the Breakfast.  We have a right to voice our opinions.  We have the privilege, not the right, to know any of the inner working of the band.  Vic, Jordan, or whomever else within the organization has the right, but not the responsibility, to fill us in whenever they feel necessary.  The same goes for Freddie, Dave, or anybody else who is particularly close to the band.  We are more informed than any other fans that I know of, and we are very lucky for that.  But this doesn\'t mean that we should be assuming that we know everything.

Sorry, this rant is a bit scattered.  But I feel like my points are out there.  This is my official stance until the end of Summer Tour/Fests 2006

[freddiewaht]

well put,kinger!!

[Jim Cobb]

this thread is recockulous.  leith, by no means do i mean to attack you and you have a right to say whatever you want, but what exactly is the point of this thread?  what good do you expect to come of it?

(p.s. you forgot the breakfast\'s spread in relix earlier this year.  sorry if someone else mentioned this, i only read the first and last pages, i assumed the middle looks the same...)

[freddiewaht]

this thread is recockulous.  leith, by no means do i mean to attack you and you have a right to say whatever you want, but what exactly is the point of this thread?  what good do you expect to come of it?

(p.s. you forgot the breakfast\'s spread in relix earlier this year.  sorry if someone else mentioned this, i only read the first and last pages, i assumed the middle looks the same...)

pretty much

[delfunk1]

What a thread to end Thanksgiving weekend with.  I\'m just thankful to have the opportunity to get my mind blown via The Breakfast, Timmy Tour etc. for the last 5 years.

[leith]

this thread is recockulous.  leith, by no means do i mean to attack you and you have a right to say whatever you want, but what exactly is the point of this thread?  what good do you expect to come of it?

(p.s. you forgot the breakfast\'s spread in relix earlier this year.  sorry if someone else mentioned this, i only read the first and last pages, i assumed the middle looks the same...)

Well It is the end of the year.  A time for reflection and discussion. The fact that another band I follow closely and who are @ the same level of development as The Breakfast skyrocketed past The Breakfast in terms of visibility this year was very surprising to me.
To hear that The Bfast is turning down good gigs pissed me off. I do everything I can to pimp them and they are turning down gigs in their homestate? I call Bullshit.
I am obssessed w/ The Bfast but think of ALL those fans that are not but just really like them. Do you really think a fanbase is going to be there if you are not playing? Come On!
All the posters that have been sooo upset w/ this subject see The Bfast all the time and have side gigs to go to. The rest of the nation does not. I have said this over and over yet this board still thinks the band is fine. It is not. They need to tour and hopefully once the winter is over they will. I am not going to count on it though.
I could have posted this in any number of formats but come on that is not my style you all should know that by now. I will continue to be the malcontent as long as I see no dates past the miss.river. You don\'t like it don\'t read it.

[Jim Cobb]

i agree that things could be different, i just feel like this might not be the most productive place to channel that discontent energy.

[Me!]

exactly!