i\'m ser though if you haven\'t heard "songs from the blackhole" i will hook you dudes up, the songs are miles beyond anything since, they recorded the demos that were later scrapped a la "smile" when matt sharp\'s dad died and they were in europe doing acid and opening for radiohead... longtime sunshine and blastoff are two of the best songs they ever wrote and they weren\'t even offically released, they were also never played live, but the demos i have are pretty good quality