To quote Happy Gilmore, "Gold Jacket, Green Jacket, who gives a shit?" Bottom line: MJ=The greatest ever. Kobe=most talented player in the NBA over the last five-six years. Won 3 rings with the "help" of Shaquille O\'Neal and a plethora of great role players. Both had Dr. Phil, so that\'s a wash. Both had/have the triangle O. Don\'t act like Mike had the greatest collection of players around him either. Ho Grant was a solid PF, but far from the best. The rest (Besides Scottie) were decent ballplayers who played selflessly as a club is supposed to under a great(possibly greatest ever) coach. Scottie was a sick compliment to MJ, and is a sure HOFer but not a single one of you would be so dumb as to take Scottie over Shaq in their prime. Double Bottom Line: Now that Kobe\'s got Phil again, and now that he has the rest of the NBA by the nuts, let\'s see him win 2 or 3 more rings without the help of Shaq, Timmy Duncan or KG AND leave his career scoring avg. at or near 30.0 ppg. by the time he\'s done and maybe he\'s up there. Just remember MJ drained 25 game winning shots in his career, 8 were buzzer beaters, 1 was for the NBA championship, one was for the sheer devastation of the Cav\'s entire city and organization, and oh yeah, the one I DIDN\'T count was for an NCAA title. Kobe, despite his rings and scoring already, has a LONG way to go before he can step to that cred. Glad i could clear all that up.