How about a Breakfast Tour Fund?

[WALSH]

First of all, if the band started to write songs or work in jams that are more textured and not as "raging" it would not be selling out!!!  A band needs to mature and their sound needs to adapt and expand and sometimes change...not for anyone else but the members of the band.  I am not saying it will definitely because I am not in the band, but I for one hope new songs equal new avenues of musical expression and maybe new genres of music not already held down by the Breakfast.  As long as it is a slow progression it should be a welcome addition by all, and will(which is what everyone wants) expand their fanbase.

They have their shorter crafted songs now with most of the songs on RR, and they have their raging, proverbial balls-to-the-wall rockers from the past.  I would love to see some composed multi-sectional monsters,the likes of tGFSoT); which have sections built in for vast sonic explorations in which they can build whole layered sounscapes that anchor monstrous second sets.  Possibly some polyrythmic numbers that Animal could explore that acoustic setup from "The Big Bang";(Remember, I have already volunteered to help him lug that shizzy around the country if need be).  Songs to change up the tempo of a set.  More quirky, avant-garde like song structures such as "Lit".  Slow introspective songs like "Vera St."

I actually hope that in 3-4 years when the band is playing the Nokia Theatre for a 3 night NYE stand in front of 2200 people, that shows are long, multi-textured journeys that summon the ghosts of Coltrane and Miles; while toying with the ideas layed forth by Garcia and a now defunct 4-some from VT.  All the while having a unique, much sought-after, undeniably Breakfast sound.

Thanks for your time.

[leith]

^^ Walsh you describe show dynamics. Something I have been harping about for the past year. It is something they suck at right now but they are learning. I say they suck at it now only due to the fact that when they do try and bring a show to a mellow point, they lose the crowd and people bitch that the "energy" was lost. I personally think they do a fair job of bringing in the slower songs but then I LIKE the slower stuff so... I hope they do start exploring textural jams more and give us something along the way of a 20-30min. GBFBITS w/ a multi-textured jam smack dab in the middle.





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Sorry Leith, but I would pay for them to stay in NE. I\'m kinda selfish that way! :wink:

lol Totally understood.

[WALSH]

Here is a for instance and I know that it was a cover album set but there is a moment at about 4:20(not surprisingly) in "Within You..." from the Sgt Pepper\'s set, that they had the crowd spontaneously bursting into clapping, the entire room was enveloped in textural sound that(again I know this was not the idea of this set, but it can apply to other times) could have been explored and expanded ten-fold and really caused orgasmic responses.  This song, first of all, should be taken over by the band and become a feature cover that they could bring down the house with.  Second of al the jam they could have gotten into with this song playing off of the main theme and morphing it into their own only to bring it back later in the set, show, week, etc.  Layering sounds and stripping away others until there is just this undulating pulsating rythmic monster that no one could get away from.  The Breakfast have songs that they can do this to of their own now, but could also construct new songs to build off of this idea.

There does need to be a careful balance of when and where slower more contemplative songs should appear(i.e.Vera); and the band needs to feel out their audience to find those times of course.  There is no formula for it.  The Dead were amazing at this concept, in my mind, and rarely placed a slower or fro that matter spacier song/jam in the wrong slot(not to say it NEVER happened).  Phish, for the most part also was good at this(except for Wading encores-love that song but really!).  This concept and idea would be made easier by some songs/ jams that had more textural(slower for lack of a better word)parts or jams to them for the crowd wouldn\'t be so shocked by the tempo change.  Shows with loping peaks and valleys and textural segues/jamming get to be almost hypnotic and would keep an audiences energy and focus no matter what the tempo of a song/jam.

Now, that said there is always going to be those who want nothing but BALLS-TO -THE-WALL RAWK, and that is fine...in it\'s place.  But after watching the Acoustic Cafe show I saw that the band can keep people melting with slower more emotionally packed jams.

[obsession600]

You guys have made some great points about show dynamics. Heavy touring can definitely help out in that department.

Regarding the subject of raising money: Here are some ideas for new merchandise.
1) Turkey Tour 2004 box set
2) Zone 2

nothing too fancy, just a small "fan club" run, single page insert etc.

[kindm's]

Breakfast Mafia, supplying your touring needs since 1993.

LOL.

Or Breakfast Mafia, we have "youthful offenders to burn"

[Stephengencs]

I dont think the word mafia should be associated with a bunch of italians from east haven....

[Wolfman]

Once "serheads" gets too trendy and everyone stops saying it, the new name for fans should be The Breakfast Mafia!

[oldnewbie]

Once "serheads" gets too trendy and everyone stops saying it, the new name for fans should be The Breakfast Mafia!

it\'s been done.i cain\'t say who....but there are members of this board who are in the moe.fia (who says you cain\'t choose your family). this doesn\'t mean that it\'s off limits......but would be kind of lame IMO.

[FreeSpirit]

:hscratch: Don\'t we all contribute to TPalms & "donate" to his cause by tipping his tip jar?  
Not that I TOTALLY agree w/ Leith, but since we\'re doing it at the solo shows, couldn\'t the Breakfast put out a tip jar too? :chin::?:

[oldnewbie]

:hscratch: Don\'t we all contribute to TPalms & "donate" to his cause by tipping his tip jar?  
Not that I TOTALLY agree w/ Leith, but since we\'re doing it at the solo shows, couldn\'t the Breakfast put out a tip jar too? :chin::?:

um.....no! this would be the most unprofessional thing ever. do you think the venues that are paying them might not care for it. t/palms books himself with the understanding that the majority of his stipend that evening will come from his tip jar. if the breakfast were to try something like this....it would signify the beginning of the end. a benefit show to raise funds to tour  would be a whole different issue IMO.

[FreeSpirit]

Good point... so let\'s do a benefit show... we\'ve all been talking about it long enough - when TPalms lost his equip, and the van was dead, we all spoke of helping raise money... good ideas were brought up (like having it at the UAC or Annex Club), but never delivered.  I think it\'s time for us to help out.  And I know that most of us are BROKE (me included), but I spend enough @ the bars & on drinks, etc. that it would be nice to have a night where my money was actually going towards something more productive than driving home, gripping the wheel, with one eye shut.

[Wolfman]

moe.fia...whatever.  Only the most Italian band ever is worthy of such a title.  Let\'s send Al Schneir to Sally\'s, he\'ll get charged the Jew tax and they\'ll probably throw cheese-whiz on the pie when he asks for "cheese" instead of "mooz".

[WALSH]

I would say that having everything that starts with the sound "mo" being put as i.e.

moe.st
moe.ron
moe.fia

Would remind me of being the smurfs not anything to do with mafiosos;)

[freddiewaht]

if i ever walk into a breakfast show,and see a tipjar on the stage,i crack someone in the mouth,and jet...confirmed..

[WALSH]

Thank GAWD you weren\'t in Block Island...check the gallery;)