A thread that started out about Gaza but quickly turned into a debate about calendars

[WALSH]

^^^^^^^^^Funniest .info post EVER!!!! CONFIRMED!!!! SER!!! EPICCCCC!!!!

I have to go get out of these pee soaked pants and then clean the screen off from the soda I spit out my nose.

[Klout]

I would invite any haters to read this book

http://www.lawoftime.org/content/bookstore.html

I\'ll bet everything I own it will change your mind.

[SlimPickens]

i don\'t know, looks a little too newagey for me.

[Klout]

your loss

[SlimPickens]

your loss

hows the weather on the next road of evolution?

[Jim Cobb]

your loss

hows the weather on the next road of evolution?

you tell me

[FrankZappa]

thread=STOLEN!!!

I\'ve never heard any of this stuff with the 20 levels and whatnot. I only know the mayan calendar because of random historical texts I\'ve read over time, and of course the great invention of Greggery Peccary, the calendar.

I\'d have to read into all this, but it sounds a little too new age for me. I\'ll give it a chance though.

As far as the Mayan calendar, you haven\'t really heard of it yet because we are not near the date in question, but its no different than y2k in that way - if someone in 1995 was talking to you about y2k, you\'d have no idea what they were talking about. In december 1999, you couldnt get away from it. If October 2011 is the end date, then it will be all you hear about in september 2011 on cable news.

[Jim Cobb]

no its very different.  y2k was the product of us taking shortcuts on our technology, and then panicking, "OH NO WE SCREWED OURSELVES, THE WORLD WILL END!!!"  the mayan calendar charts the evolution of human consciousness in a way that shows complex cyclical, rhythmic patterns as to how the human mind has and will evolve.

[FrankZappa]

:sadban:

dave et all - the callndar is very easy to read. there are 5 numbers, each seperated by a period. Compair it to our calendar. We have month/day/year (at least in the US ). In our calendar, after december (12), we cycle back to january (1) as the beginging of the first column \'month\'. Mayan works the same way, only the numbers are different:
The kin, tun, and katun are numbered from 0 to 19.
The uinal are numbered from 0 to 17.
The baktun are numbered from 1 to 13

So, if 10/28/2011 is the day the world ends, that means that it is the \'roll over\' of the calendar, where every number turns back into a zero (0.0.0.0.0) Just like in a odometer, that means that 10/27/2011 would be (13.19.19.17.19) since these are the highest numbers for each column.

an equivelent date in our calendar would be 12/31/99999999999~ (if our year column ever rolled over)

note: technically, the date it rolled over might be 1.0.0.0.0. This is because the baktun is number 1-13, where all others start with 0. This is one of the reason there are debated start dates on the calendar. If it started with 0 and not 1, then the start day would be off by 394 years.


more info: http://webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-mayan.html

no its very different.  y2k was the product of us taking shortcuts on our technology, and then panicking, "OH NO WE SCREWED OURSELVES, THE WORLD WILL END!!!"  the mayan calendar charts the evolution of human consciousness in a way that shows complex cyclical, rhythmic patterns as to how the human mind has and will evolve.

you miss understood me. I wasnt compairing the even, I was compairing the human responce to the event. Both are concidered to be \'days the world will end\'. Whenever something like that is suppose to happen, the news ignores it untill right before, then jumps on it and covers it non-stop for weeks on end. That was the compairison I was making.

[Jim Cobb]

paul, thats not really how the mayan calendar works.  looking at the mayan calender as just the long count is like looking at the gregorian calendar as just sundays in october.  thats not the clearest analogy but what i\'m trying to say is that the long count is a small piece of a larger, more complex calendar system that doesn\'t just recycle back to zero.  the parts of the cycle are getting exponentially more frequent with october 2011 being the axis that is approached if you were to graph frequency of the cycles within the underworlds as a countdown.  if you\'re really interested, most internet websites have a very shallow, sometimes inaccurate explanation of what the mayan calendar really is, pm me and i\'ll direct you to some good reading on the subject.

[sallyalli]

:sadban:

[FrankZappa]

paul, thats not really how the mayan calendar works.  looking at the mayan calender as just the long count is like looking at the gregorian calendar as just sundays in october.  thats not the clearest analogy but what i\'m trying to say is that the long count is a small piece of a larger, more complex calendar system that doesn\'t just recycle back to zero.  the parts of the cycle are getting exponentially more frequent with october 2011 being the axis that is approached if you were to graph frequency of the cycles within the underworlds as a countdown.  if you\'re really interested, most internet websites have a very shallow, sometimes inaccurate explanation of what the mayan calendar really is, pm me and i\'ll direct you to some good reading on the subject.

you might as well send me this stuff, becaus everything I\'ve ever seen on the calendar is what I wrote. I never heard of any of these levels before.

[Jim Cobb]

first off, the book in klout\'s link was written by the world\'s leading expert.  another book to read is The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness by Carl Johan Calleman, Ph.D.  This book provides an indepth look at how the entire calendar system works and empirical evidence that its not just a lot of mumbo jumbo in it\'s application to human history.

[kindm's]

There is no place like

127.0.0.1

 :peace:

[Wolfman]

the end of the world is not what is prophesized.  it\'s the end of the world AS WE KNOW IT.

I feel fine.

2 thoughts about Gaza:

(1.)  The photos on Yahoo are amazing.  They\'ve got photographers on the rooftops, on the ground, climbing the ladders, even in the little rooms where the people have locked themselves before the soldiers come in.  It\'s really the perfect made-for-media little rabblerouser they\'ve got there, because there\'s no danger.  They\'re not really fighting, they\'re just throwing paint on each other and dragging each other around.  It looks good, but there\'s no danger to a photographer, so the media is getting superb access.  Besides, the whole reason the resisters are resisting is to get some attention, so they\'ve been very catering to the press and in some cases clearly playing to the camera.  Great photos.

(2.)  Chalk this whole thing up to the long list of why RELIGION IS RETARDED.  There are three types of people in the Gaza Strip right now: 1. Those being dragged from their homes.  2.  Those dragging people from their homes.  3.  Palestinians prancing around with masked faces and pointing guns in the air chanting "Yeah, yeah, kill the Jews!"  5,000 people in Gaza spent their week doing one of these three things.  Talk about wasted life.  I\'m sure these are all perfectly intelligent people if you take the religion out of them.  They could be making music, teaching children, or curing cancer.  But no, they\'re being evicted from their homes and dragging each other around and prancing with guns because they are brainwashed with bullshit.  Without religion, none of this happens.  Without religion, Gaza is like Connecticut; everyone just lives where they live and nobody cares.  This is so dumb, and they never stop.  I hope someone just nukes Gaza so that the radioactivity makes it uninhabitable for 10,000 years, then they send a letter to the Jews and Palestinians that says, "See what happens when you don\'t share?  Now you all lose."  The sad part is that these people are all so damn brainwashed that they\'d probably go settle there anyways and raise families of brainwashed people with three heads.