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« on: June 01, 2005, 12:14:11 am »
The AKG414\'s or the one that Dave recorded????????
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2005, 12:41:42 am »
Dave says this at bottom of his post....

Suggestion: Download this now to hold you over until Mike (kindm\'s) gets his up. Grab that when you can, because I have no doubt that it sounds better than this one. I\'d left some gear home, and was forced to run an abbreviated setup, pairing my 483\'s with my UA-5 - a combo which I really don\'t like. Anyways, I\'m not really happy with this recording, but here it is.
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2005, 09:42:44 pm »
AKG 480/ck63* > Edirol UA-5 (digi-mod) > Nomad Jukebox 3 @ 44.1k.
*XY, 90 degrees, clamped to rail ~8 feet high; ~15 feet from stage.
Original recording and transfer by Dave Pecoraro (dave@thebreakfast.info):
Nomad Jukebox 3 > Firewire > Nomad Explorer > Sony Sound Forge 7.0 (normalization)
Taped by dave

AKG 414XLS/ST (cards, DIN) >UA-5 (Oade digi-MOD) 24/48 >VX Pocket 440 >Sony Vaio PCG-GRS700k > Wavelab 5.0
Transfer: Wavelab 5.0 (16Bit/44.1khz) UV22HR >CD WAV Editor >FLAC 1.7.1
Taped by Mike Deary & Kyle Holbrook


Some things I consider before before deciding "what sounds better" or "what makes a better recording" or "whats a better mic"

1. mic placement in the venue:
Dave:clamped to rail ~8 feet high; ~15 feet from stage
Mike: Unknown?
a.  left/ right bias (one channel louder than the other). althought the       venues pa could have a bias
b. accurate reproduction of the soundstage or image (mic pattern and stereo position)
c. amount of audience in the recording
d. onstage recording vs back of room

2. natural room acoustics vs direct miking

3. mic preamps and digital to analog converters - looks like mike and dave used the the same model pre/a/d.  

4. frequency response - more times than not this is dependent on the venue\'s sound system and the band\'s equipment, size of room, board mix and effects/compressor/eqs/pan/etc..
bass frequencies - boomy vs dry
mid frequencies - intelligibility vs muddiness of vocal and instruments
high frequencies - clear, crisp  vs muffled,flat

5. playback system
boom box, car, headphones, movie theater, home theater, home stereo, recording studio monitors
the same recording can sound great on one and crappy on another. but the best recordings sound good on all systems.

6. personal preferences

7. price bias

ok, whats my choice? have not listened to both.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2005, 10:15:39 pm »
FYI- Mike was clamped in the same spot. Mike\'s had fancy pom-pom looking covers!! Gotta be better, right???
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2005, 10:52:18 pm »
Well, if I would have known about the fancy looking pom-pom covers.........
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2005, 10:57:06 pm »
haha, the fancier the better!
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2005, 11:02:51 pm »
removed my comment. just realized dave ran hypers so the mic capsiles are pretty different as far as response patterns
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2005, 01:50:24 am »
Mike- haven\'t listened to Dave\'s take yet, but yours is AWESOME!!!! :awwyeah: Thanks, again!!!!!

btw- Niiice pom-poms ;)
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2005, 02:05:38 am »
standing on bat guano, Save side, shakin it(T\'s Sis) reverse
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2005, 03:11:27 am »
why does my bittorrent always suck?

it down loads at like 1 k per second but i can d/l off archive at like 600 k per sec. wtf?
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2005, 10:26:23 am »
do you have the correct ports open in your firewall for Bit Torrent to work ?

That might be the cause
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