The ONE and ONLY NCAA Football Thread

[ChrisPitch]

And got big points for doing so

[Marcial]

As expected, despite going 12-0 in the toughest conference in college football, Auburn gets the shaft... if this isn\'t a wake-up call that college football needs a play-off system, I don\'t know what is.................

[leith]

Auburn . Welcome to where USC was last year. Playin\' for 3rd. Nice season too bad.

[Wolfman]

Originally posted by Marcial
As expected, despite going 12-0 in the toughest conference in college football, Auburn gets the shaft... if this isn\'t a wake-up call that college football needs a play-off system, I don\'t know what is.................

You\'re absoulutely right Marcial.  It\'s the same tired story every single year.  Every year the headlines scream: "BCS Controversy?".  Ooohhhh.  Woooowww.  BCS Controversy...I\'m really captivated this time. :rolleyes:  This is why I stopped watching D1 football altogether about 12 years ago.  Not even the bowls.  Who cares.  The bowls mean nothing.  The season means nothing.  The great myth they try to throw at you is that every game in the season means a shot at the national championship.  That\'s hogwash.  Since only the top 7 or 8 teams at the start of the year have any chance at all to win a championship, the games only mean something to 8 out of 150 teams.  Then you have teams like Auburn, who are in the top 8 but it turns out their season meant nothing anyways because they won every game and still got no shot at a title.  There will never be a playoff either, they\'re totally against it.  If you want to root for a real college football league, watch Division I-AA.  They have a playoff.  If you insist on watching the joke that is I-A, then you can\'t complain at the end of the year because you know from the start the system you are signing up to be a part of.

[Drew_Kingsley]

I think that the problem is pre-season rankings.  If USC didn\'t start the season at #1, no way would they be ranked #1 right now.  I say no rankings until the first BCS standings come out (November... I think).

Utah and Boise State are also being shafted.  I\'ll admit that Boise State would get destroyed by Auburn, Oklahome, or USC... but the point of having any kind of postseason play is that you keep playing until you lose.  "Win or Go Home"... not "Win and Go Home Anyway".  There is no chance for a Cinderella team in college football... where\'s the fun in that?

[ChrisPitch]

Fuck the system. From now on, I will consider any team that finishes undefeated a National Champion. You can\'t do much better than go undefeated in the SEC so when Auburn beats Virginia Tech I\'ll consider them just as much a champ as the USC-Oklahoma winner. Why not? They were never given a chance to prove otherwise. I\'ll ignore the rules since they obviously make no sense and crown my own champions. Who is going to tell me different? Lee Corso? I don\'t think so. An entirely disgraceful finish to a sport that normally generates tons of excitement.

[leith]

Originally posted by Drew_Kingsley
I think that the problem is pre-season rankings.  If USC didn\'t start the season at #1, no way would they be ranked #1 right now.  I say no rankings until the first BCS standings come out (November... I think).

 

Watch ESPN much.

OH and for all the whiners out there. USC has 2 yes 2 Heisman Trophy Candidates. A major reason they stayed #1. Eat it Bitches.

[Marcial]

Wolfy, since you are a yankee I don\'t expect you to understand the allure of college football... the SEC in particular.  See, here in Alabama, there are no professional teams at all... college football is it, and people take it extremely seriously... and from from a very young age.  I can\'t tell you how many gradeschool playground fights occur because of where you sit on the "Auburn vs Alabama" fence.  It\'s crazy.  

Every Saturday in the fall, Auburn goes from a college town of around 50K people to the 3rd largest city in the state.  Our stadium, which hold close to 88,000 people, has been sold out for every game in the last 20 years.  Tennessee\'s Stadium is the same as far as sellouts, but it now holds over 100,000 people.  RV\'s begin arriving on the Wednesday before a big game, and by Friday, you have to climb over bbq grills and kegs if you want to get to class.  The atmosphere is like no other sporting event in the country.  

No professional sports team can even come close to that level of fan participation.  Hell, 90% of baseball games (your favorite sport) don\'t even fill half of the seats in the stadium!  

Yeah, Auburn got screwed (although there is still a small chance to have a split title), but I will still be at every home game next year, and the next year, and the next year, until I am one of the old folks in my Prevost bus getting to campus on Wednesdays!  

And Leith, need I remind you that USC is in the PAC 10.... the Auburn Highschool team could go undefeated in that conference, so don\'t talk too much shit.

[leith]

LOL  OK whateva how many National Championships does Auburn have? uhhhh SCOREBOARD.

[ChrisPitch]

There\'s just no consistency from year to year. Last season, LSU and USC both had one loss and split the title. This year, three undefeated teams won\'t get even get a chance to prove whether or not they\'re worthy. And Auburn played the hardest schedule out of all of them. So I\'ll watch Auburn win its bowl game and revel in a title and all Auburn die-hards should do the same. Who cares who the media suits vote for? These are the same people that voted Oklahoma #1 all last season only to see them lose to Kansas St., then LSU. They know diddly-shit. You can\'t do better than undefeated so any Auburn, Utah and Boise St. fans should feel the same as the fans of the winner of the "official championship game" because their team accomplished just as much.

By the way, is anyone as excited as I am for the Pioneer PureVision Las Vegas Bowl? That\'s what I thought.

[Wolfman]

Marcial, I\'m well aware of you damn Feds and your love for college football.  I\'ve been in Tuscaloosa the night before a home game, with everyone drinking from 8PM on through the night until kickoff at noon.  I\'ve attended games at Nebraska and Florida.  But just because a bunch of whiskey-drinkin slave-drivin Nascar-watchin rednecks love college football doesn\'t mean the season means anything as far as championships are concerned.  You\'re the real victims here.  For everyone down there, like you said, it\'s bred into you from an early age, so you\'re forced to put up with a lifetime of the stupidity that is D-1 football.  At least I have the option of ignoring the existance of D-1 football. Now if you\'ll excuse me, I\'m gonna go...afterall, happiness is a northbound yankee!

[Marcial]

just for the record...  I hate NASCAR!

[Wolfman]

Originally posted by Marcial
just for the record...  I hate NASCAR!

So what you\'re saying is, you drive a mean slave.

[Marcial]

> >The SEC has 5 teams in the top 20 (AP/Coaches) more than the Big-12 and Pac-10 combined.

> >The SEC has 4 teams in the final BCS top 15, the same as the Pac-10 and Big-12 combined.

> >There are more mid-majors in the top 20 than in the Big-12.

> > There are more mid-majors in the top 20 than in the Pac-10.

> > Auburn has won more games against 9 win teams than OU and USC combined.

> For the record - AU beat UGA, LSU, and TN twice

>sou-cal beat VaTech and Cal

>- okie beat Texas only

> > Auburn has won more games against 9 win teams than the entire Pac-10 conference.

> > Auburn has won more games against 9 win teams than the entire Big-12 conference.

> > Auburn has won as many games against 9 win teams as the Pac-10 and Big-12 conferences combined.

> > The Sugar Bowl pits the SEC Champ against the ACC Champ. There are 5 teams in the top 20 in the SEC, 4 in the top 20 in the ACC. That\'s 9 schools in the top 20 represented by their conference champions in the Sugar Bowl.

> >There are more top 20 teams in the ACC and SEC than the Pac-10, Big-12, Big-10, and Big East combined.

> > There are more top 20 teams in the ACC and SEC than the Pac-10, Big-12, and every mid-major conference combined.

> > And, one interesting factoid...

Should Auburn, UT, UGA, and LSU win out, Auburn will have won 5 games against teams with 10 wins. That would be the toughest schedule in the history of college football.

[ChrisPitch]

Knowing all that, it\'s amazing the BCS computer still ranks Auburn third