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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2004, 09:55:37 pm »
I think that the problem with "jam > X" to start a show is that the jam can be uninspired.  I would rather a jam occur spontaneously rather than written into the setlist.  Granted I\'m not sure if this happens often with The Breakfast.
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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2004, 11:43:25 pm »
i think it can be helpful to the band to start with jam to sorta warmup.i do love me a doughboy opener though!!
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2004, 09:19:27 am »
I think opening up with a random jam for the locals is the way to go. I definitely miss it!
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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2004, 06:51:04 pm »
The guys are defnitely conscious of the experience level of the audience and often open the set accordingly.  Formula in new cities, anything goes in New England and other strong cities.  

I\'m still not sure what is the best way generalize what people want, especially when you\'ve got a room full of fans who you don\'t know.  Kroop always said, along with some posts in this thread, that you gotta play simple versions of catchy songs at the beginning of a set to draw people into it.  While I\'m certain that this will work for some people, I\'m not sure that it will turn on more people than a 2-5 minute jam into WUIAC or Sundance or Escher\'s etc. would.  When I think about who, at the end of the day, is really going to flip out over this band and go to lots of shows, I think it\'s the people who are turned on more by jam > x.  When I see a band for the first time I get much more involved by seeing them open with a creative jam into a nutty tune rather than 3 5-minute songs.  The key is learning whether that puts me in the majority or minority.  Variety is important as well.
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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2004, 08:13:46 pm »
Phil and Friends use the Jam>x formula so no one misses a "song". By the time the audience is mostly there the "song" begins. The Dead have adopted this method also. Now if The Breakfast had the problem of waiting for a venue to fill I guess this would not be bandied about. As for my 2 cents I enjoy a band starting off w/ a jam. I like to see where they are headed. Opening Jams really let one hear where musicians are @ Headspace wise if you know what to listen for. I find here on the West coast that most people prefer the Jam>x rather than a 3-5 min. song it lends more to the "what the fuck is gonna happen now?" factor.
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2004, 02:32:36 am »
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i think it can be helpful to the band to start with jam to sorta warmup.i do love me a doughboy opener though!!


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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2004, 10:23:23 pm »
i dont think there will be another doughboy opener at porters.but if it happens,im sure nobody will run out the doors pissed!
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2004, 10:00:23 am »
Wah, the Band on the Run call on the other thread would be a great opener tonight........
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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2004, 10:09:06 am »
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Wah, the Band on the Run call on the other thread would be a great opener tonight........



They cover that song?  That\'s awesome, I love that tune.  Would love to see that tonight
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2004, 11:20:38 am »
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i dont think there will be another doughboy opener at porters.but if it happens,im sure nobody will run out the doors pissed!


Alright, I\'ve been meaning to say this for a while but have been lacking the bravery...






I don\'t really like Doughboy. At all.



Oh shit what have I done!?
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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2004, 11:24:12 am »
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They cover that song?  That\'s awesome, I love that tune.  Would love to see that tonight


If wah is on it, I am already writing it in my setlist....
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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2004, 04:11:31 pm »
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Alright, I\'ve been meaning to say this for a while but have been lacking the bravery...






I don\'t really like Doughboy. At all.



Oh shit what have I done!?


Why Joc ? Is it because the word Doughboy is masculine?
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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2004, 04:20:28 pm »
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Alright, I\'ve been meaning to say this for a while but have been lacking the bravery...






I don\'t really like Doughboy. At all.



Oh shit what have I done!?


What?!?!  That\'s it!  You\'re out of the club!
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« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2004, 04:31:59 pm »
at first i never dug it too much.  always loved vera st, but after porters ep2>doughboy>ep2 and the 2nd night cafe 9 opener, I am SO sold ...
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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2004, 11:21:19 am »
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Why Joc ? Is it because the word Doughboy is masculine?


Heh no I\'m not jumping on the Ani bandwagon just yet... :)

I just think it\'s kind of boring. Doesn\'t do much for me.

So now I\'m out of the club. eh, probably better off anyhow, y\'all are bad influences. Yikes, this club is going to have to be the Sausage Club... galenas and giavanna, good luck girls...
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