... and when the band isn\'t touring....

[gitCHu ONe.]

I just keep wondering what the guys are up to when they are not touring. Like, did the band make enough loot on the road last tour to not have to have a \'real\' J.O.B. until the next time they tour? I would hope that they would not have to get sucked into the coporate world that this mainstream commercialization of day to day commerce. A band of their magnitude should only have to spend the time they have between tours to write new tunes and rehearse, oh, and maybe spend time with family and friends... Where can \'work\' fit into this mix? It cannot! And, since the disbandedment of Phish now at hand, when can we expect to see Breakfast ticket prices to spike, and for the band to be headlining 1000+ head venues? I know we are classified into the grassroots/non-commercial genre that is \'jamband\', but face it folks... it\'s time for the revolution. MtvJAM to release premeir music videos from random artists to finally achieve Platinum record status for at least one of our favorite underground ensambles. Hopefully, we\'ll see \'Bling Bling\' encoporated into our genre on our own terms, where phrases such as \'ser\' and \'heady nugs\' will be spoken daily and with many defintions by the youths of the day. If \'one-hit-wonder\' rap groups can make $100,000+/month, our talented musicans and song writers should make at least twice that, and put on at least as high of a pedestal.

REVOLT or DIE!

b-love

-=GitCHu ONe=-
*NeW DIttY*

[Marcial]

Word up to that!  I can definitely see each of the guys behind the wheel of a new Bentley....

[rustyD]

They probably have to work real jobs when they can...

[jocelyn]

Hey, Mulcahey! How you been!?

[antbach]

I won\'t mention any specific names, but I know at least one of them has a "real" job that starts at 7am every morning, and don\'t they all give lessons when they\'re home for extra loot?

[Wolfman]

Love the passion Mulcahey!  They all definitely work off tour, but fortunately a lot of it is music related (and NOT weddings!).  For example, Tim does all the solo shows and now there\'s The Good Time Boys, that kinda stuff, nothing wrong with that work.  Ticket prices are already spiking, I heard that people have even started scalping tickets outside shows.  And I for one am 110% in favor of seeing the band on MTV or on rock radio, as long as the live performance style stays the same.  I think a radio edit of Drunk Monk Bar or Hardluck Harry could get some air.

[oldnewbie]

Originally posted by Wolfman
Ticket prices are already spiking, I heard that people have even started scalping tickets outside shows.  

lmao

[gitCHu ONe.]

... ever see the \'Touch of Gray\' video?

 Good shit, period, but I doubt it drew as much of a new audience as any other, non-jam, band. It is widely known, that pretty much any one song/video heard on the radio, or seen on Mtv, will sound that one same way for the rest of existance. Any newer act that is; within the last 30 or so many years.

I brought up the \'Touch of Gray\' video because Grateful Dead lasted for many many years, and the video didn\'t effect them one way or another. I\'ve known a lot of GD fans that don\'t even like that video much, because it isn\'t a good description of what they really were. But that doesn\'t even really matter here... the point is, that those rap groups/rock bands that are so idlized and over played all day fade quickly. The groups can\'t hold a fan-base\'s attention for too many years. A GD song from 1969 is just as good today as it was then, but a 50 Cent track from last year isn\'t interesting now at all. What the hell is that? Even if you bought the cd without listening to the radio or watching Mtv, you are sick of it now. But that one GD song have evolved over the years, again and again.

Maybe an MtvJAM channel would work. Where groups can make elaborate videos for album versions of songs to promote their newest album, but to still have programs dedicated to the actual \'live works\' of the band.  Fine... enough said.

Yeah, so, (Mr.)Phish to have the first ever live broadcast straight at audiences all around the world... in a damned movie theater. Where the fuck did they get THAT idea!? It\'s a new age people!

the man

-=gItCHu ONe=-
*NeW DittY*

[leith]

Anyone who was following GD before the Touch video knows that it DID have an effect on our scene as it brought in soooooo many newbies it was ridiculous. The Touch video began the GD scene decline plain and simple. The thing is GD did make a great video for Foolish Heart which saw little airplay @ all. As for Phish in a theatre this is just another way to get $$$. Rolling Stones IMAX, GD movie rerleased in theatres etc.

Phish is getting my $12.50 though

[psychjosh]

I saw GD between 88 and 95 and the scene was the scene. It did not change until the mid nineties. That video aired well before.

"Touch" did NOT start the Deads decline.
To be honest.. the Phish lot scene and gate crashing started their demise.  Oh yeah.. let\'s not forget.. Jerry\'s death contributed as well.

If anyone is old enough to remember GD lots as compared to Phish lots... the different drugs and menatlity of this new generation is really what killed it. Remember Deer Creek? Gate crashers fucked up the whole scene.

I\'ll admit that GD on MTV was weird to see but it did spur the most album sales they have ever had.. and i think the name of the game is still to sell records right?

[Marcial]

Why is it that so many people seem to have a problem with bands "making money"?  Or "doing things for the money"?  Or "selling out"?  I mean, bands have to eat too, ya know.  Being "true to the music" is a very idealistic stance to take... we are in the real world here, folks... things cost money... and nice things cost a ton of money.  Can you really blame a person or band for selling out when they have an opportunity to go from starving artist to financially secure for life overnight?  Screw the music.  I say take the money & run.....

[davepeck]

^^^ what marcial said.


 We\'re not scaremongering
This is really happening
Happening
Mobiles skwrking
Mobiles chirping
Take the money and run
Take the money and run
Take the money

Here I\'m alive
Everything all of the time

[gitCHu ONe.]

i am all for it. the money making part... see my first post here. I am just wanting it to stay on our terms. US, as fans of the artistic side of music. "Sellout" to us on our terms, not to the rest of them, who are more than happy to hear the same 4 minute song on the radio that they will pay $40+ for concert tickets to see the band from the video play their song, the same way you have heard it a million times before, again and again. I believe that\'s the only point. I WANT to see our bands recognized widely, make a shit load of money, etc. And still be able to rock my ass a new one when I see them jam their #1 hit live. Something that doesn\'t happen when you see a one of "their" acts, say Incubus for example. Good tunes, but a short half-life for any of their songs. Their songs would sound the same live today as they did when they were brand new radio tunes. Something that Trey said, if anyone saw Bittersweet Motel, regarding the tour they were on at the time, that they were advised to not even play thier single, i believe it was Bouncing Around the Room, but I could be wrong.. not the point, but just that fact that tons of people were at thier show and were forced into exposure of what the band really is, not just what the mass audience of non-true-phollowers wanted to hear. If, after that, the new audience, digs what they saw, then it\'s all good.

We can argue this point over and over and over again, but unless any ya\'ll got some connections in the industry to even get a cable channel started, then it\'ll never happen. Or, 100 jam bands all release some studio tracks for the radio all at once and we can take over the mass scene. Oh well.

Cheers.

the man


-=GiTChU ONe=-
*NeW DittY*

[boombox]

At least Touch of Gray meant I had less explaing to do when I said I was a deadhead-  joe public could at least identify the band, even if it wasn\'t exactly classic material up to American Beauty Live Dead or Aoxomoxoa standard. I can\'t speak for the live scene, but around that time people over here started giving bands like the dead and dmb a listen. Even Wilco had a crazy five minutes when the critics actually listened to them.

[rustyD]

The Breakfast certainly don\'t work nine to five regular jobs!!