No one freaking on the Healthcare Bill?

[leith]

Seems odd for this bunch. I personally am stoked
it\'s not perfect but it\'s a start.

[krispy]

nothing like he healthy to subsidize the sick...  this should bankrupt the nation in half a dozen years or so!

[sąikidélik]

I think its got its good points and its absurdly ridiculous points, but i\'ve given up on arguing over its inconsistency. abortion, Medicare, pharmaceuticals, i mean i have an opinion but i don\'t support a lot of westernized medicine anyway. Health care should never be mandatory.

[Yoda]

I think that in theory it\'s a good idea to get everyone healthcare, but I don\'t think socialized medical care is the way to go... Just ask our friends to the north and over in europe how much they like it....  Obama was going to do what he had to do to get this passed no matter what the American public feels about it...  It\'s just a shame that no one listens to the people anymore...

[cannontrip]

I honestly feel everyone has the right to the necessities of life as a basis for civilization: reasonable safety, basic healthcare, shelter, social support, and some kind of job opportunity.
I think this bill, with its many flaws, is a very small step towards providing the human right to healthcare.  Police, Judicary, Fire Protection, Transportation, and many other bases of civilization are "socialized", i.e. paid for by everyone, whether or not they need it.  Otherwise we should live in a fully anarchic society, which would also be fine by me.

[jking]

Whatthe Health Care Bill Means For You/

[Mamalakabubadaya]

blegh

[zuke583]

can somebody break this argument down to, like, three sentences for me?

[krispy]

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2010/mar/22/no-headline---healthcare_folo_primer/

fixed link

can somebody break this argument down to, like, three sentences for me?

your government does not think you are smart enough to manage your health care.

your government does not think you are smart enough to manage your money.

your government sees an opportunity to pad all the right pockets by making these decisions for you.

Go Obama

[zuke583]

can somebody break this argument down to, like, three sentences for me?

your government does not think you are smart enough to manage your health care.

your government does not think you are smart enough to manage your money.

your government sees an opportunity to pad all the right pockets by making these decisions for you.

Go Obama

right on. thanks. how about the other side of the argument?

[krispy]

Health Care is a right and not a privelege.

The spread of wealth creates a more balanced societal network, alleviating poverty, disease, and crime.

Universal coverage can curb the threat from epidemic and endemic viruses such as H1N1, HIV etc.

[Vassillios]

I don\'t know how i feel about this yet. Until it affects me, I have no opinion. Yes, I\'m selfish like that.

It is good that everyone has a chance for healthcare now. That is obviously the good side of this. But once again it comes down to money. The root of all evil.

[zuke583]

hmm. well according to the washington post link, nothing really changes for me, so i guess what the govt thinks about my intelligence doesn\'t really matter (in this matter anway). and i guess it\'s good to help the sick (especially if it doesn\'t cost me money).  so is there like a vote or what? are a lot of people affected by it? i see a lot more hate than love for this based on other people\'s facebook activities. maybe i should just continue to ignore everything?

[jking]

the vast majority of people will see no change in either their taxes or coverage, the national debt will actually be decreased by 1+ trillion dollars over time, and people who need health care will have access to it. it will not end sickness nor will it lead to socialism.

[Drew_Kingsley]

* Most Americans will be required to carry health insurance, either through an employer, a government program or by buying their own. Those who refuse will face fines from the IRS.

You had me until this part. I\'m not sure who will fall into the "buying their own" sector, but I do know that if I don\'t want to pay for health insurance, it\'s not because I have a bunch of extra money to pay fines with.