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« Reply #90 on: September 13, 2009, 09:17:24 pm »
Love the vocal mix.
Sounds excellent.
Just amazing.
Great job guys great job.
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« Reply #91 on: September 13, 2009, 11:15:41 pm »
I\'ll probably pony up for this tomorrow when I\'m bored @ work.
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« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2009, 11:43:31 pm »
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I\'ll probably pony up for this tomorrow when I\'m bored @ work.

It\'s worth it.
The production is top notch.
The Breakfast this clean and clear is truly a revelation.
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« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2009, 11:48:09 pm »
That\'s awesome to hear, my only gripes with Real Radio and Moxie Epoxy was that they sounded like they were mixed so flat. Like they made surround sound speakers sound like 1 speaker or something.

This sounds like a great team effort though I\'m definitely grabbin it tomorrow.
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« Reply #94 on: September 14, 2009, 01:33:00 am »
this needs to get out there, people need to know this exists, how... i think ill listen to this album again
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« Reply #95 on: September 14, 2009, 09:11:37 am »
this truly does sound excellent!!! kudos to the ears and knob twisters that made this happen!!! and i guess to the guy\'s playing the music, too... ;)

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« Reply #96 on: September 14, 2009, 11:07:34 am »
I\'ve been trying to get this for about an hour. Twice it started up and downloaded for a while then all of a sudden it stopped. Now I can\'t even get it to start up again. Anyone else having issues?
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« Reply #97 on: September 14, 2009, 11:27:05 am »
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I\'ve been trying to get this for about an hour. Twice it started up and downloaded for a while then all of a sudden it stopped. Now I can\'t even get it to start up again. Anyone else having issues?


that happened to me when i was using google chrome. had to use internet explorer to download it

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« Reply #98 on: September 14, 2009, 11:33:55 am »
Yes mine timed out at 18.4 mb.

I\'ve noticed a few pretty show stopping problems with the new site. Look at the difference between it in Firefox 3.5 and Internet Explorer 8. At first I visited it in Firefox... as a web developer it\'s almost laughable to use Internet Explorer regularly except to test and verify cross-browser compatibility.

Problems in Firefox:
- No background image or Breakfast logo show at all. I was wondering why until I looked at the source code.
- Pages are in a perpetual state of "loading".

Problems all around:
- The server is slow as fuck whether it means loading pages or trying to download this album (although it looks like it\'s suddenly picked up speed I think it might actually make it this time!)

30%+ of the population and growing use Firefox as their default browser. My opinion is that the new site is actually beautiful, and a look at the source code proves whoever programmed is definitely no hack.

However it\'s absolutely urgent that these issues with Firefox get resolved. I assume The Breakfast paid a pretty penny for this site, but IMO sites that aren\'t standards-compliant or at least close enough to work equally well in IE / Firefox / Chrome / Safari etc are not complete.

The Breakfast: Please demand of your programmer to fix these issues. If you were dealing with my company I would consider this my highest priority to fix right away.

If they are unable to fix this or if it doesn\'t get fixed soon, no offense but this is a little embarrasing for a web developer to see. The site is absolutely fantastic otherwise (in Internet Explorer). But yeah I could hack this source code and fix this for you, no charge of course.

Also your server is slow as hell, I would host your site for free on a wicked fast server and maintain regular updates if that\'s something you\'re interested in. You certainly have a great web site in the works but it needs to be fixed first of all, and there\'s ways I can easily think of to get more community involvement beyond simple links to Facebook / Myspace etc. How about full integration with thebreakfast.info forums for starters?

Seriously hand it over to me it\'s damn good but it\'s broken and I\'ll make it better and you\'ll never have to worry about it not being up to date. You guys should have hit me up in the 1st place I would have done this start to finish on the house. I will increase community involvement, make you more money, and get you more traffic. And use secure custom shopping cart software instead of relying on Paypal (Paypal are bastards). You read that part about me making you more money / more traffic / more community? That\'s my specialty yo. Take this as a serious offer, as it\'s a way I can really use my talents to help you guys out.[/i]

Ok my download\'s finished.... back in a bit.
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« Reply #99 on: September 14, 2009, 11:37:39 am »
There we go. Thanks for the quick response!
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« Reply #100 on: September 14, 2009, 11:56:34 am »
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Seriously hand it over to me it\'s damn good but it\'s broken and I\'ll make it better and you\'ll never have to worry about it not being up to date. You guys should have hit me up in the 1st place I would have done this start to finish on the house. I will increase community involvement, make you more money, and get you more traffic. And use secure custom shopping cart software instead of relying on Paypal (Paypal are bastards). You read that part about me making you more money / more traffic / more community? That\'s my specialty yo. Take this as a serious offer, as it\'s a way I can really use my talents to help you guys out.[/i]


deserves repeating
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« Reply #101 on: September 14, 2009, 12:49:41 pm »
tuna- u should utilize the pm function to

thatguy
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« Reply #102 on: September 14, 2009, 12:53:33 pm »
I did I talked to Adrian he said he\'d talk to his peeps and see what\'s up.

In the meantime if anyone is unable to download the album due to time outs or other bugs I have it uploaded to my server. I\'m in no way going to link it publicly or give it away for free... but if you paid for it and can\'t get it, hit me up.
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« Reply #103 on: September 14, 2009, 12:56:55 pm »
wrdmup gangsta.  gettin direct to the source
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« Reply #104 on: September 14, 2009, 01:34:39 pm »
yea kiiid this shits ser biz. And by that I mean the new album and also this web stuff.

Good to see the Firefox / Chrome header and background image is now showing, a quick and easy fix indeed. They also fixed the javascript error that was causing "perpetually loading" phenomena. Props for quick response to these issues!

The server speed issues seem to be related to the fact that the site is actively being developed as I write this and during the times when many of you tried to download the album and had problems. Not that live site updates should slow things down for more than literally 1-2 seconds but apparently they have a different method to their madness.

I\'m not gonna front. This site is straight up ballin\' compared to what they had in the past. But from a marketing / community / money making standpoint I\'m seeing a whole lot of unrealized potential.

With a website like that and a few code tweaks, there\'s so many ways to get the community involved, sell way more shit, and straight up make it rain dollar bills for the band.

No reason why the new site shouldn\'t be fully integrated with .info too. New visitors should be welcomed as family, and the new site should be the portal through which the forums are entered. After that is created our beloved http://www.thebreakfast.info should actually have a redirect script on it to go directly to http://www.thebreakfast.org where people can log in. Why? It would greatly enhance the relevance of the main site, and get more people to become active on the forums! Increased traffic and relevance = increased activity = increased opportunity for promotion and sales.

The site is beautiful, glad they are using XHTML Transitional and apparently actively fixing the known bugs. (why anyone would upload a buggy page without testing it on several browsers first....).

Aesthetically its awesome and code-wise it\'s modern and allows plenty of room to extend the lifespan and further improve the site. However as it is, it\'s a great looking site and pretty useful. What it\'s lacking is serious marketing and community involvement .... if a beautiful web site shits in the woods, does anybody eat it? Catch my drift.

Also The Breakfast should totally own http://www.thebreakfast.COM .... a quick look at the whois lookup reveals this douchebag domain name consolidator in Belize bought the domain (and probably thousands of others) just to put ads up there and probably try to sell it. Typical. He won\'t even say his real name because this business is such weak sauce:

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Registration Service Provided By: CHERISHED DOMAINS
Contact: +44.8707656321

Domain Name: THEBREAKFAST.COM

Registrant:
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Mr Domain Admin ()
PO BOX 28
San Perdo
Ambergris Caye,852963
BZ
Tel. +501.2261324

Creation Date: 26-Apr-1999
Expiration Date: 26-Apr-2010

Domain servers in listed order:
ns4.cherished.com
ns3.cherished.com
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Look at his site www.cherished.com . I fucking hate these people. Solution? First, see how much he wants for it and how dick exactly he\'s trying to be. If he\'s unreasonable about it that\'s when you move on to certified letters, threats of lawsuit under your copyright, etc. What he\'s doing is legal but many companies have won battles with these fucks under copyright laws. Almost always these guys don\'t wanna do battle in court (and frankly neither do we) and usually they will either concede to a reasonable offer under this kind of pressure. This anonymous douche in Belize is probably a huge hoo haa and would give it up if he felt we weren\'t fucking around.

The fact is *everybody* types in ".com" .... or if they just type in "thebreakfast" it will go directly to ".com" ... missing out on the 1st timer domain name guessers (who are actually guessing the most logical place for it to be) is a big miss.

So... let him get away with it and lose out? Or maybe see if he\'ll let it go cheap willingly? <--- this should *at least* be done. If not, it\'s up to the band if they care about owning what should be theirs. I\'d be glad to personally threaten litigation under the name of my (ok not "my" but I\'ve got serious pull around here and I\'m basically #1 in line to run the company when the time comes...) successful advertising firm.

We don\'t fuck around when it comes to this, no reason The Breakfast should take it lying down either.

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From the US Department of State:

"Belize has fulfilled its obligation under the World Trade Organization (WTO) to implement the Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property (the TRIPS Agreement). The Belize Intellectual Property Office (BELIPO) was established to administer intellectual property rights (IPR) laws, which include copyrights, industrial designs, patents, trademarks, protection of new plant varieties, and protection of layout - designs (topographies) of integrated circuits.

Belize is a party to the Paris Convention for the Protection of Industrial Property, the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, the Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT), and the Hague Agreement Concerning the International Deposit of Industrial Designs. However, Belize has ratified neither the WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT) nor the WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty (WPPT).

Stores throughout the country continue to sell and rent pirated CDs, DVDs, and tapes. Local television stations and cable companies also continue to pirate American television network and cable channel programming with impunity.

Several importers, primarily those doing business in the Corozal Commercial Free Zone, continue to import and sell counterfeit merchandise, such as cigarettes and clothing. Under Belize\'s Copyright and Trademarks Laws, the onus to institute legal action against violators of intellectual property rights lies upon the holder of the copyright and trademark, and not upon local law enforcement officials."
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So yeah basically the best course of action in this scenario is to act real fuckin serious and take the incremental steps I described above. Not quite as easy as if he was in the USA but he\'s definitely not immune. No reason at all why we shouldn\'t see what his offer is and if it\'s bullshit then it\'s time to flex a little muscle.
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