The Breakfast: Live As Is

[FrankZappa]

i think ill listen to this album again

best.album.review.EVER

[boombox]

I would like to buy physical album at Daniel Street, as well as Adrian\'s solo. Will that be possible??

There will not be any physical albums printed of Live As Is. Downloads only.

Bummer - whatever happened to CDs? Hope the mp3s are a decent bitrate.

Am going to have to pass for a while though as I just got back off holiday to find I had been made redundant!

[kindm's]

anyone else having trouble with .org ?

trying to get to the site it loads google analytics but never fully loads the home page.

What kind of chickenshit hosting plan is it on ?

[kindm's]

ok so the site finally loaded.

what do i get for $10.00

Am I downloading FLAC files or are they mp3\'s ?

I don\'t see anywhere on the site where it actually tells you what format etc

[kindm's]

yea kiiid this shits ser biz. And by that I mean the new album and also this web stuff.

Good to see the Firefox / Chrome header and background image is now showing, a quick and easy fix indeed. They also fixed the javascript error that was causing "perpetually loading" phenomena. Props for quick response to these issues!

The server speed issues seem to be related to the fact that the site is actively being developed as I write this and during the times when many of you tried to download the album and had problems. Not that live site updates should slow things down for more than literally 1-2 seconds but apparently they have a different method to their madness.

I\'m not gonna front. This site is straight up ballin\' compared to what they had in the past. But from a marketing / community / money making standpoint I\'m seeing a whole lot of unrealized potential.

With a website like that and a few code tweaks, there\'s so many ways to get the community involved, sell way more shit, and straight up make it rain dollar bills for the band.

No reason why the new site shouldn\'t be fully integrated with .info too. New visitors should be welcomed as family, and the new site should be the portal through which the forums are entered. After that is created our beloved http://www.thebreakfast.info should actually have a redirect script on it to go directly to http://www.thebreakfast.org where people can log in. Why? It would greatly enhance the relevance of the main site, and get more people to become active on the forums! Increased traffic and relevance = increased activity = increased opportunity for promotion and sales.

The site is beautiful, glad they are using XHTML Transitional and apparently actively fixing the known bugs. (why anyone would upload a buggy page without testing it on several browsers first....).

Aesthetically its awesome and code-wise it\'s modern and allows plenty of room to extend the lifespan and further improve the site. However as it is, it\'s a great looking site and pretty useful. What it\'s lacking is serious marketing and community involvement .... if a beautiful web site shits in the woods, does anybody eat it? Catch my drift.

Also The Breakfast should totally own http://www.thebreakfast.COM .... a quick look at the whois lookup reveals this douchebag domain name consolidator in Belize bought the domain (and probably thousands of others) just to put ads up there and probably try to sell it. Typical. He won\'t even say his real name because this business is such weak sauce:

______________________________________________
Registration Service Provided By: CHERISHED DOMAINS
Contact: +44.8707656321

Domain Name: THEBREAKFAST.COM

Registrant:
N/A
Mr Domain Admin ()
PO BOX 28
San Perdo
Ambergris Caye,852963
BZ
Tel. +501.2261324

Creation Date: 26-Apr-1999
Expiration Date: 26-Apr-2010

Domain servers in listed order:
ns4.cherished.com
ns3.cherished.com
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Look at his site www.cherished.com . I fucking hate these people. Solution? First, see how much he wants for it and how dick exactly he\'s trying to be. If he\'s unreasonable about it that\'s when you move on to certified letters, threats of lawsuit under your copyright, etc. What he\'s doing is legal but many companies have won battles with these fucks under copyright laws. Almost always these guys don\'t wanna do battle in court (and frankly neither do we) and usually they will either concede to a reasonable offer under this kind of pressure. This anonymous douche in Belize is probably a huge hoo haa and would give it up if he felt we weren\'t fucking around.

The fact is *everybody* types in ".com" .... or if they just type in "thebreakfast" it will go directly to ".com" ... missing out on the 1st timer domain name guessers (who are actually guessing the most logical place for it to be) is a big miss.

So... let him get away with it and lose out? Or maybe see if he\'ll let it go cheap willingly? <--- this should *at least* be done. If not, it\'s up to the band if they care about owning what should be theirs. I\'d be glad to personally threaten litigation under the name of my (ok not "my" but I\'ve got serious pull around here and I\'m basically #1 in line to run the company when the time comes...) successful advertising firm.

We don\'t fuck around when it comes to this, no reason The Breakfast should take it lying down either.

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From the US Department of State:

"Belize has fulfilled its obligation under the World Trade Organization (WTO) to implement the Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property (the TRIPS Agreement). The Belize Intellectual Property Office (BELIPO) was established to administer intellectual property rights (IPR) laws, which include copyrights, industrial designs, patents, trademarks, protection of new plant varieties, and protection of layout - designs (topographies) of integrated circuits.

Belize is a party to the Paris Convention for the Protection of Industrial Property, the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, the Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT), and the Hague Agreement Concerning the International Deposit of Industrial Designs. However, Belize has ratified neither the WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT) nor the WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty (WPPT).

Stores throughout the country continue to sell and rent pirated CDs, DVDs, and tapes. Local television stations and cable companies also continue to pirate American television network and cable channel programming with impunity.

Several importers, primarily those doing business in the Corozal Commercial Free Zone, continue to import and sell counterfeit merchandise, such as cigarettes and clothing. Under Belize\'s Copyright and Trademarks Laws, the onus to institute legal action against violators of intellectual property rights lies upon the holder of the copyright and trademark, and not upon local law enforcement officials."
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So yeah basically the best course of action in this scenario is to act real fuckin serious and take the incremental steps I described above. Not quite as easy as if he was in the USA but he\'s definitely not immune. No reason at all why we shouldn\'t see what his offer is and if it\'s bullshit then it\'s time to flex a little muscle.

I have offered to host .org etc for free for years. Just as I do for .info. Not sure why they never took me up on it.

As for .com last time I looked in to it it was still owned by the kid who originally was the webmaster (Grason ??) who the guys had a falling out of. Not sure if it is just parked with the registrar or it came up for renewal recently. I had been watching ot a while ago but haven\'t thought about it in a while.

I work at an ISP so if any of you are looking for webhosting wetc let me know. FreeBSD or winblows if you need it

[jking]

i think once you get to the final stages, it finally tells you vbr mp3s. (they seem to all be over 500k)

[kindm's]

i think once you get to the final stages, it finally tells you vbr mp3s. (they seem to all be over 500k)

LAME

So they put all this work in to making an album had it mixed by Jim to release it in a lossy format.

Strange

Any chance a high quality download will be made available ?

Considering it would have taken all but 2 minutes to render a flac option

[bdfreetuna]

Breakfast has its choice of FreeBSD, Windows Server or our fresh Mint Linux box ... good things happen when Breakfast lets A/V club make it happen... maybe the Geek Squad can help out too

Also if I remember the bitrate on mine was something in the mid 200\'s. Gotta download it again on my laptop to double check though.

Lossy, yes. Still sounded way better than any Breakfast album ever and that was on some shitty speakers I had at work. Actually, why aren\'t I blasting that on the surround sound right now? haha Trey + Philharmonic Divided Sky for the meantime

[skalnbyc]

Hope the press releases are ready to go.

[bezerker]

sounds exactly like the link i got from archive or wherever.   great shit but you guys must be smokin deemsters (leith)  if you think this is that unreal.   dont get me wrong im stoked as fuck they got a new release and it sounds amazing.  was hoping they dubbed the lyrics but obviously live as it means what it says.   thanks for the release tho bfast sounds great

[Spacey]

sounds exactly like the link i got from archive or wherever.   great shit but you guys must be smokin deemsters (leith)  if you think this is that unreal.   dont get me wrong im stoked as fuck they got a new release and it sounds amazing.  was hoping they dubbed the lyrics but obviously live as it means what it says.   thanks for the release tho bfast sounds great

so, basically, what you are saying is that I don\'t need to be downloading the link I received through PM, that I can just it off archive ?

[Jim Cobb]

Breakfast has its choice of FreeBSD, Windows Server or our fresh Mint Linux box ... good things happen when Breakfast lets A/V club make it happen... maybe the Geek Squad can help out too

Also if I remember the bitrate on mine was something in the mid 200\'s. Gotta download it again on my laptop to double check though.

Lossy, yes. Still sounded way better than any Breakfast album ever and that was on some shitty speakers I had at work. Actually, why aren\'t I blasting that on the surround sound right now? haha Trey + Philharmonic Divided Sky for the meantime

hey tuna,

could you start a new website thread?  this is the album thread.

[GLuft3]

I would agree that a lossless download option would be nice.  FLAC files, please...

[Jim Cobb]

i think once you get to the final stages, it finally tells you vbr mp3s. (they seem to all be over 500k)

LAME

So they put all this work in to making an album had it mixed by Jim to release it in a lossy format.

Strange

Any chance a high quality download will be made available ?

Considering it would have taken all but 2 minutes to render a flac option

I would agree that a lossless download option would be nice.  FLAC files, please...

I have 24/48 FLAC files.  If anyone can just get an OK from the band, I\'ll provide a DL link to anyone that can show proof of purchase...

[Stephengencs]

cant wait to get my hands on some Live Asses....