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« Reply #120 on: April 15, 2009, 02:12:22 pm »
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I\'m not sure if they are considered electronica, but Ozric Tentacles are pretty cool.  If you see them live, you\'d better hope that you catch them on a good day or else you\'re in for one long 2 hour dooze.  I would suggest Live at the Pogmaster\'s Ball...


I totally agree that Ozric is the type of electronic sound that may or may not be implemented. I know most electronic music is produced with a couple of computer programs, maybe even just fruityloops itself...

I just don\'t see TB as an E-band. It would seem like faxing a picture of band instrument to an email account in which someone used Microsoft paint to color the photos, then snail mailed it to our E-dad account. haha

I already enjoy the delays, layering, and synth sounds the boys include, and of course the extended spacey jams are excellent, but their progressive style can\'t be cut into one specific tempo all of the time. Hey, if they want to lay out some extra space jams etc. that\'s fine! Just don\'t get your e-dad to sign up for an e-band.
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« Reply #121 on: April 15, 2009, 02:33:54 pm »
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I just don\'t see TB as an E-band. It would seem like faxing a picture of band instrument to an email account in which someone used Microsoft paint to color the photos, then snail mailed it to our E-dad account. haha


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« Reply #122 on: April 15, 2009, 02:53:49 pm »
e-dad?  is that a new cinco product?
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« Reply #123 on: April 15, 2009, 03:09:46 pm »
I want whatever white lodge is smoking.
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« Reply #124 on: April 15, 2009, 05:06:55 pm »
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e-dad?  is that a new cinco product?


if their e-dad is as ser as their cigarette juice, i\'ll take two!

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« Reply #125 on: April 15, 2009, 08:27:31 pm »
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i am a huge bisco fan but must say that the breakfast are amazing the way they are and shouldnt change. Barber is an amazing guitarist that is now constricted by the untz genre. There is nothing wrong with that as I said before I love the biscuits, but I dont want to see Tim ever limited by his face melting abilities.

matter of fact a lot of old school bisco fans wish bisco wasn\'t so electronic


Well, I finally got through 9 pages of this to find a post which sums it all up for me. For me, electronica is certainly NOT the way forward for this band, unless they want to alienate all the fans they\'ve built up over the last ten years - fans who have ben attracted to the fusion of styles. There is enough electronica in their sound as it is - any more would detract from showcasing their musicianship. Anyone, and I mean anyone, can set up a loop on the keyboard and let it run for 10 minutes over a two chord vamp which goes nowhere - Particle, when I saw them spring to mind - the guitarist was just a bit player and anyway, Jordan could blow the keyboard player away too with only one hand.

It\'s all about fusing the right elements and maintaining a balance. The Ozrics, as mentioned earlier, if they do go into a tracey-style jam, leave plenty of room for the guitar and live acoustic drums to all but blot it out so the loop it just becomes a background noise. Take out the loop and the songs and "traditional" instruments would still be enough. Electronica does not have that capability - The Breakfast are too talented to be wasting their time being submerged in background splurge. I have to admit that the amount they use even now I find at times can sometimes detract from the songs and after all, it is songs which sell a band to a wider audience. Would the dead have made it just on the strength of the jams? Most likely not. It is the songs whch provided the framework, the tension, the expectation. Increasing what should only be a background element in The Breakfast\'s music would have the effect of removing their identity.

The biscuits have gone way too far down the electronic route - seeing them live last year was one of the biggest disappointments in over 25 years of gig-going. It didn\'t help that opener, the bays were absolutely shite, or that Umph, despite a crappy mix (and some sloppy playing by their standards) played a damn good show, or I suppose, that Barber was still in a legplaster, but the only decent songs they played were the Floyd covers. I think it was a decision to play more rave bollocks as they were in Britain, where too many people are sadly afflicted with the desire to put big fish into cardboard boxes (seriously, watch their "dance" moves!), but it backfired as nearly everyone there wanted to hear old school bisco.

Call it old-fashioned if you like, but let the boys carry on doing what they do best - being a bloody good rock band with their own style. After all, if Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath etc can carry on doing what they do for over thirty years, still headlining festivals and staging sell-out gigs, with hardly a change in their sound, it shows electronica is not really necessary. In fact, of the current big bands in the world, how many of them use electronica other than for a slight bit of sonic colouring from time to time?
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« Reply #126 on: April 15, 2009, 09:07:12 pm »
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You\'re persistent I\'ll give ya that.
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lol...and...have you listened yet?

Of course not. So far your recommendations in music are very suspect for my tastes.

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well josh, from a personal standpoint, i just dont agree.  from a business standpoint, i say yes and no.  yeah those are the trends, but i think that the undeniable talent you speak of would allow them to be successful (and very successful IMO) without having to succumb to the trends.  i see good bands succumb to trends and 99 times out of 100, they\'re gone from the spotlight as quickly as they hopped into it.  adding electronic elements to their music isn\'t going to make them successful.  hard work in areas OTHER than playing music is going to make them successful.  a bunch of bisco fans that got excited by some shit that reminded them of bisco aren\'t going to be the same type of fans you see on the board today.  they way to accumulate superfans is through musical honesty.  for some bands that means electronica, for other bands it doesn\'t.  i just think that if we\'re talking about ways of raising the breakfast\'s status in the business, getting trancy is LOW on the list.  unless they\'re goal is a quick swim in the spot light and NOT a long term career.


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some good points. maybe a better way to go about it would be for the band to seek out some electronic elements that they genuniely like and would like to incorporate into the sound. i\'ve always imagined that the members of the band are always seeking new music in addition to creating new music. now, maybe the new elements they find aren\'t necessarily electronic...that\'s just something i\'d selfishly like to see (and why i started the thread).


Ya think? Come on these guys know what they are doing. As many have noted there\'s plenty of electronic elements in The Breakfast\'s music maybe that\'s all they want.

Isn\'t it enough they have some fans bitching about where they play, how often they play and why they don\'t play certain songs?
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« Reply #127 on: April 15, 2009, 09:13:32 pm »
I thought it was a pretty legitimate discussion.
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« Reply #128 on: April 15, 2009, 09:28:25 pm »
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I thought it was a pretty legitimate discussion.

Was being the operative word. ;)

I have faith that The Breakfast are happy with the music they are creating and Zuke\'s desire for a more electronic Breakfast will remain just that.
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« Reply #129 on: April 15, 2009, 09:34:13 pm »
A more electronic Breakfast in a nutshell is simply a few effects and modest experimentation - I thought what they did at the Iron Horse on Saturday sounded pretty damn cool.
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« Reply #130 on: April 15, 2009, 10:52:50 pm »
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A more electronic Breakfast in a nutshell is simply a few effects and modest experimentation - I thought what they did at the Iron Horse on Saturday sounded pretty damn cool.


Didn\'t sound all that different to me.  On disc it was a decent show. Some moments shined over others as in every Breakfast show. I thought Ep. 3 was sick and Lit was fun. TL&TG>STL was def up there but I didn\'t hear any more or any less electronic stuff than normal. :shrug:
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« Reply #131 on: April 16, 2009, 12:23:14 am »
i\'m just thinkin a ser drumnbass jam every once in a while would be ser.  not trance jam queeb, but ser drumnbass, jojo mayer style....

obv i don\'t want the band to become an untz band, and i dont believe that is what zuke is shootin for either
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« Reply #132 on: April 16, 2009, 03:04:31 am »
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A more electronic Breakfast in a nutshell is simply a few effects and modest experimentation - I thought what they did at the Iron Horse on Saturday sounded pretty damn cool.

Didn\'t sound all that different to me.  

my comment is more of a specific reference to the Queen jam
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« Reply #133 on: April 16, 2009, 03:21:33 am »
whose got mah mothafuckin presssiiiieessss, bitch! bring it on. i\'m ready to tweak n geek all week.

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« Reply #134 on: April 16, 2009, 09:53:12 am »
And then kill yourself the week after... lol
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