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« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2008, 09:56:37 pm »
I\'ve been thinking about this subject a lot lately.  I find it pretty ironic that Joe Satriani sues Coldplay, and it turns out that both tunes resemble that Marty Balin tune.  And who knows what dozens of songs that were written before that tune resemble and so on. Maybe this was a way for Joe to bring attention to himself which equals to more album sales for him.  

I do agree with Tim that there are only 12 notes and coincidences are bound to happen, especially with simple, catchy melodies over diatonic chord progressions. But, I have no respect for artists who totally plagiarize other artists.  Taking credit for someone else\'s work is despicable.

One example (which has been talked about in this thread) of such an act is Pearl Jam\'s "Given to Fly".  I usually overlook this song because Pearl Jam is a great band with tons of original songs, but I can\'t see how this isn\'t plagiarism. Even the B section of the tune if I recall are pretty much the same. Led Zeppelin cant say shit about it because Jimmy Page was notorious for "borrowing ideas".

But there is certainly a difference between plagiarism and being inspired by an artist or band.

Musicians are usually music geeks, and musicians are influenced by the music they love. As a musician myself I have written songs or parts of songs (riffs, chord progressions, vamps....) that were influenced by certain bands or certain songs even. I remember reading that John Lennon said that "You\'ve Got to Hide Your Love Away" was totally inspired by Bob Dylan. I guess that\'s easy to see.  Even the great Frank Zappa had had musical influences.

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« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2008, 10:05:44 pm »
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My take is this, shit happens. I can name tunes i wrote that resemble a song, i do my best to make sure it doesn\'t, but its not always in a composer\'s control. If I never a heard a song before, and something i write is similar, what am i going to do. its pure coincidence. sometimes like they said with cryptomnesia a melody once heard can surface subconsciously - so that can be the case some of the time. now do i feel suing over an subconscious mistake is right - no - but legal precedent has been that you do. George Harrison, John Fogardy, Verve, etc didn\'t intentionally rip anything off. some people do intentionally rip off other peoples music. with joe and coldplay - i think it is purely coincidence but oh well - let a jury of their peers decide - tis the american process at work (so is suing but that is another topic). we can all name a bunch of tunes that are so similar it seems plagiarizing has taken place. maybe its a form a flattery :) just kidding. there are only so many notes to use, in so many rythmic patterns, over so many chords, and with the amount of people in this world writing original music daily, its bound to happen quite frequently if you ask me. only not everyone gets radio play and success so we don\'t even know how many cases of this cryptomnesia, plagiarizing, or musical synchronicities are actually being committed daily.

there is nothing new under the sun - its just being discovered.

the modern day composer refuses to die.

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damn longest post by tpalms ever?

I think someone is feeling guilty (and a little nervous) that synergy ripped off like 25 different songs.

Coincidence you say? Tell it to the jury!

hehehe j/k brah ;)

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« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2008, 11:33:18 pm »
Joe Satriani and Coldplay are both terrible.  Bad music ripping off bad music.
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« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2008, 01:16:10 pm »
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