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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2008, 09:03:54 am »
Wow, that Marty Balin video is so lame. I like the Airplane but what the hell happened to the guy? Nice feathered mullet! The guard should\'ve locked him in so he could get it on with his guitar.
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2008, 09:44:03 am »
i would have thought Bono would be the first to sue Coldplay.

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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2008, 10:03:24 am »
Quote from: Mamalakabubadaya;213314
coldplay sucks :vomit2:


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All their songs sound the same to me. Although, I don\'t have a musical bone in my body, so I could be wrong. But it all sounds like the same mush.

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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2008, 11:53:55 am »
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i would have thought Bono would be the first to sue Coldplay.


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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2008, 12:33:51 pm »
But then the guy who invented the douche bag would sue Bono, and the whole vicious cycle, much like the wheel in the sky, would keep on turning.
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2008, 12:36:17 pm »
smart move, satch

guess who\'s career just got a boost?

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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2008, 02:54:09 pm »
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if i was coldplay\'s guitarist, i\'d listen to that mixed version and think "damn why didn\'t i play it like that?"


that\'s what i was thinking too ha...and i like coldplay.

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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2008, 04:12:50 pm »
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smart move, satch

guess who\'s career just got a boost?



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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2008, 05:08:33 pm »
"do you know how i know you\'re gay?  you listen to coldplay" --40 year old virgin
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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2008, 05:17:27 pm »
My take is this, shit happens. I can name tunes i wrote that resemble a song, i do my best to make sure it doesn\'t, but its not always in a composer\'s control. If I never a heard a song before, and something i write is similar, what am i going to do. its pure coincidence. sometimes like they said with cryptomnesia a melody once heard can surface subconsciously - so that can be the case some of the time. now do i feel suing over an subconscious mistake is right - no - but legal precedent has been that you do. George Harrison, John Fogardy, Verve, etc didn\'t intentionally rip anything off. some people do intentionally rip off other peoples music. with joe and coldplay - i think it is purely coincidence but oh well - let a jury of their peers decide - tis the american process at work (so is suing but that is another topic). we can all name a bunch of tunes that are so similar it seems plagiarizing has taken place. maybe its a form a flattery :) just kidding. there are only so many notes to use, in so many rythmic patterns, over so many chords, and with the amount of people in this world writing original music daily, its bound to happen quite frequently if you ask me. only not everyone gets radio play and success so we don\'t even know how many cases of this cryptomnesia, plagiarizing, or musical synchronicities are actually being committed daily.

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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2008, 06:26:47 pm »
indeed indeed. Seems more likely that a review board will decide, not a jury of peers. I am not sure if these things require a formal jury trial. Oh well, there are only so many notes on the scale. Or are there more than we even realize??? muhaha
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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2008, 07:48:23 pm »
from http://www.straight.com/article/coldplay-stone-cold-hit-machine
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a few moments later, when asked what he and his band members have contributed to rock history, he admits they\'ve added nothing new.

In keeping with this conflicted self-regard, Martin last year told Rolling Stone that he reckons himself and his mates "incredibly good plagiarists", a claim supported by the songs on their most recent album, X&Y. When speaking of Coldplay, critics invariably return to the band\'s indebtedness to U2, pointing to Martin\'s grandly unsubtle oration, Buckland\'s chiming guitar tones, and Berryman\'s melodic bass playing. That\'s to say nothing of X&Y\'s more wide-ranging references; take, for example, "Fix You", which contains liturgical organ sounds à la Radiohead, a swelling crescendo of guitars that recalls a toned-down Mogwai, and a locked-arm sing-along coda reminiscent of Manchester Britpop forerunners James.

Most startling of all the allusions on the album is to Johnny Cash, for whom Martin wrote the disc-ending "\'Til Kingdom Come", a sublimely faithful rendering of the country icon\'s vulnerable masculinity. More than anything else he\'s ever penned, that song suggests that Martin will only get better as his frame of reference expands.

"I think if you plagiarize from enough different places, you can get away with it," he claims of his serial thievery. "I\'m very glad to be a plagiarist. When you read about Bob Dylan, that\'s all he was doing, taking from old American traditions. I think that\'s the tradition in all oral and spoken arts-you just build on what came before. In music, there\'s only so many notes to play."

Martin is only half-right here; Bob Dylan (like all artists) is indebted to what came before him, but if he had not developed his own formal and narrative style-if he had not invested his music with something deeply personal-he would be nothing more than a historical footnote. As it stands, if Martin dropped dead tomorrow, he would be remembered for his two world-conquering hits ("Yellow" and "Clocks"), for his three successively more polished and consistent albums, and as the husband of Gwyneth Paltrow. Not bad, sure, but his musical accomplishments only hint at what his melodic gifts-which rate among the keenest in pop music\'s last 15 years-might one day yield, if only he allows himself to be challenged.


Coldplay is incredibly shallow music marketed for the masses and that a**hole has a lot of nerve comparing himself to Dylan.
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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2008, 10:46:50 pm »
review board correct - either way - i say they duke it out in a ring with crushed glass gloves like kickboxer with jean claude van damme.
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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2008, 02:36:20 pm »
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coldplay sucks :vomit2:


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« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2008, 03:06:49 pm »
Ever see that episode of Reno 911

Where Kenny Rogers is complaining that Lionel Richies song Lady is a rip off of his song Woman?