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« Reply #135 on: November 14, 2008, 12:48:20 am »
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i don\'t think bdfree is being \'gay\'



for what it\'s worth, i think it was the deemsters that were \'gay\', not bdfree... (although he was tryin to lure me in with the old \'coke on the weenie\' trick...)



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peaches I don\'t get your problem kid. We all have different opinions on this shit. If you have one, state it. If not, shut the fuck up.



bdfree, i got no beef with your opinions, you are entitled to them.  it is totally acceptable for you to hate stoops, the trio, and cartoon songs. however, in my opinion you sounded like a pompous clown right about here-


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Maybe you don\'t know these kids, a lot of \'em are my festie crew and for the record they are absolutely dedicated fans to whatever bands they like. But now they\'re back on Bisco / Umphreys / Bassnectar / STS9 / DSO / Phil / Bobby / P-Groove (not RAQ, I don\'t know anyone who thinks they don\'t suck lol) tour and the only way they\'ll see Breakfast again is if they happen to camp out next to whatever stage Breakfast is playing at, and they are too fucked up to wander elsewhere. That\'s the truth. If Breakfast had put on a SER show at Iron Horse I could almost guarantee you a sell out for the next show and I doubt they would be playing at Iron Horse much longer.
After years of being the only one in my crew who gives a shite about Breakfast other than "oh yeah, their guitar player is pretty good but not as good as Jake Cinneger" I gave the band the best opp since Butterfield to win new fans in western Mass and it was totally blown.

Maybe you\'re right and they don\'t need these fans. Depends if Breakfast wants to play Sully\'s for life
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and i felt that needed to be addressed.



As far as my opinion on the stoops matter- I have already stated in this thread that I pretty much agree with Boombox, so to recap -

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From what I\'ve heard of Stoops, he\'s more a return to form for me and I\'ve no problem with his being ex-Raq, as I liked them. It would be interesting to see what his being in the band would bring, not least in terms of an expanded fan base and perhaps greater commercial potential. His songwriting skills won\'t go amiss, certainly. He could provide just the right impetus to push the band to the levels of success they deserve.

Things change, I know, and the "golden age" of the band for me is perhaps over with both Jordan and Ronnie gone. (Sorry Chris, I know you\'re a bloody amazing bass player who has brought some real energy to the band, but my loyaltiy to the Save remains unquestioned.) So, as far as I\'m concerned, if Jordan came back, this would not be a backwards step, rather the welcoming home of a long lost prodigal son. Make the most of the shows with him - especially if the boys take the opportunity to plunder the old back catalogue again.

And as for those of you saying "this is the end", shame on you!
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« Reply #136 on: November 14, 2008, 12:59:09 am »
The Breakfast play a ser show at the Iron Horse? That certainly never happened before and if it ever does happen, it\'ll prob be a dooz cause they already blew their 1 big chance to show NOHO how they dangle do.:rolleyes:

why do n00bs think The Breakfast always plays cart00n songs? These were fucking HALOWEEN shows for fucks sake.
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« Reply #137 on: November 14, 2008, 06:47:34 am »
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josh kroop\'s got a lot, then probably myself > wolfman > gavin. im sure im forgetting a few others in the 250>300 range

then jen and brandon, pitchie, aruny and matt vallo are prob all around 2 hunj


dont know kroops number, but with no research the list in my best re collection go :  fred, ellis, stevie,  dave, todd, fitz, wolf, mandler, gabo


Dave might be the only one close to me in # of shows but I think I might still reign in the number with 500+ - I have an unfair advantage though..

BTW - breakfast.org is up and running
raq site is not...

Aw shit people.. let\'s get the energy in this thread pumping again
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« Reply #138 on: November 14, 2008, 07:46:58 am »
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this message board is autistic.


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« Reply #139 on: November 14, 2008, 10:00:37 am »
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why do n00bs think The Breakfast always plays cart00n songs? These were fucking HALOWEEN shows for fucks sake.


Probably cuz cartoons don\'t have much to do with halloween.

Just a guess. If I were to go see a band on Halloween I might expect a couple spooky licks but otherwise I\'d anticipate something resembling a normal show.
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« Reply #140 on: November 14, 2008, 10:32:58 am »
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Wow.. Lots of hating going on round here. Cant we all just get along.
RAQ is/was..whatever.. a GREAT band. Anyone who does not think so... I know lots of folks who hate the dead and phish and dave mathews etc... music is so subjective.

Guys.. Support our friends and the band we love .. don\'t fucking hate on other talented artists just cause it taint ur thing and keep going to see live music in any capacity you can!


Well put. To use the examples above: I like RAQ, though nowhere in the same league as The Breakfast, Dead or Phish. I\'m not a great fan of DMB, though, especially on album. However, I wouldn\'t speak ill of them in terms of their musicianship, which is far greater than most bands who enjoy greater success. I just don\'t particualrly "get" them. However, to each their own - leave me to my jambands and 60s psychedelia and acid rock and I promise not to decry anyone for raving about Radiohead and Nirvana either !! :)
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« Reply #141 on: November 14, 2008, 10:46:52 am »
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why do n00bs think The Breakfast always plays cart00n songs? These were fucking HALOWEEN shows for fucks sake.

Probably cuz cartoons don\'t have much to do with halloween.

Just a guess. If I were to go see a band on Halloween I might expect a couple spooky licks but otherwise I\'d anticipate something resembling a normal show.

are you serious?

i\'m 30 years old and i\'ve dressed up for halloween about 25 times.  i\'m fairly certain that at least 20 of them have been cartoon characters.  adult and children time

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« Reply #142 on: November 14, 2008, 11:25:22 am »
I\'m pushing ten shows and my first show was in \'02 :duck:
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« Reply #143 on: November 14, 2008, 11:45:01 am »
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this band\'s lack of management/marketing/direction is retarded.  
this message board is autistic.


wait weren\'t you the same guy who praises helping people and rescuing those in need (spiritually and financially) in the admin elect thread? this is like a reversal.

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Quote from: Overexjoesure;210997
this message board is autistic.


Then you must be Rainman....k-mart sucks....


I love Kim Peek. (the guy who=Rainman) although he is an autistic savant..... most people with autism have cognitive deficits, which I\'m guessing was Joe\'s reasoning for insult. I guess without the arguing this wouldn\'t represent our various ideas that can still unite us in loving the bfam.

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but seriously I love what Tim and Adrian do regardless of who sits in.


See, this is the mentality that doesn\'t give any credit to founding members Ron and Jordan and those that have come after like Chris, Matt and now Stoops.  This isn\'t The Who (Townsend, Daltrey and whoever they bring along on tour) or KISS (You get my drift).  If you don\'t start considering these people "part of the band", but only people to "sit in" there will never be a band, it will be The Breakfast: featuring Tim Palmieri, Adrian Tramontano and guest bassist fill in the blank and guest keys fill in the blank.


Being that Jordan and Stoops are not future perma-players (as of yet....) Believe me  yoda, I was really sad to see Jordan and Ron go, because I\'d been seeing them play as a quad for a few years by then...I had Tpalms and Adrian in mind because they\'ve been a stagnant force over the longrun.

Strange though, I had a dream that we saw the Breakfast and Jordan switched off to playing bass and keys. They kicked some ass, even though it was in an old barn.
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« Reply #144 on: November 14, 2008, 11:52:58 am »
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this band\'s lack of management/marketing/direction is retarded.  
this message board is autistic.


wait weren\'t you the same guy who praises helping people and rescuing those in need (spiritually and financially) in the admin elect thread? this is like a reversal.

Quote from: Yoda;211025
Quote from: Overexjoesure;210997
this message board is autistic.


Then you must be Rainman....k-mart sucks....


I love Kim Peek. (the guy who=Rainman) although he is an autistic savant..... most people with autism have cognitive deficits, which I\'m guessing was Joe\'s reasoning for insult. I guess without the arguing this wouldn\'t represent our various ideas that can still unite us in loving the bfam.

Quote from: Yoda;210948
Quote from: inthewhitelodge;210941
but seriously I love what Tim and Adrian do regardless of who sits in.


See, this is the mentality that doesn\'t give any credit to founding members Ron and Jordan and those that have come after like Chris, Matt and now Stoops.  This isn\'t The Who (Townsend, Daltrey and whoever they bring along on tour) or KISS (You get my drift).  If you don\'t start considering these people "part of the band", but only people to "sit in" there will never be a band, it will be The Breakfast: featuring Tim Palmieri, Adrian Tramontano and guest bassist fill in the blank and guest keys fill in the blank.


Being that Jordan and Stoops are not future perma-players (as of yet....) Believe me  yoda, I was really sad to see Jordan and Ron go, because I\'d been seeing them play as a quad for a few years by then...I had Tpalms and Adrian in mind because they\'ve been a stagnant force over the longrun.

Strange though, I had a dream that we saw the Breakfast and Jordan switched off to playing bass and keys. They kicked some ass, even though it was in an old barn.


Helping people in need has nothing to do with how absolutely ridiculous this board is.  I was merely satirizing a person\'s use of the word "retarded", an adjective I find deplorable.
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« Reply #145 on: November 14, 2008, 11:58:14 am »
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Quote from: inthewhitelodge;211049
Quote from: Overexjoesure;210997
this band\'s lack of management/marketing/direction is retarded.  
this message board is autistic.


wait weren\'t you the same guy who praises helping people and rescuing those in need (spiritually and financially) in the admin elect thread? this is like a reversal.

Quote from: Yoda;211025
Quote from: Overexjoesure;210997
this message board is autistic.


Then you must be Rainman....k-mart sucks....


I love Kim Peek. (the guy who=Rainman) although he is an autistic savant..... most people with autism have cognitive deficits, which I\'m guessing was Joe\'s reasoning for insult. I guess without the arguing this wouldn\'t represent our various ideas that can still unite us in loving the bfam.

Quote from: Yoda;210948
Quote from: inthewhitelodge;210941
but seriously I love what Tim and Adrian do regardless of who sits in.


See, this is the mentality that doesn\'t give any credit to founding members Ron and Jordan and those that have come after like Chris, Matt and now Stoops.  This isn\'t The Who (Townsend, Daltrey and whoever they bring along on tour) or KISS (You get my drift).  If you don\'t start considering these people "part of the band", but only people to "sit in" there will never be a band, it will be The Breakfast: featuring Tim Palmieri, Adrian Tramontano and guest bassist fill in the blank and guest keys fill in the blank.


Being that Jordan and Stoops are not future perma-players (as of yet....) Believe me  yoda, I was really sad to see Jordan and Ron go, because I\'d been seeing them play as a quad for a few years by then...I had Tpalms and Adrian in mind because they\'ve been a stagnant force over the longrun.

Strange though, I had a dream that we saw the Breakfast and Jordan switched off to playing bass and keys. They kicked some ass, even though it was in an old barn.


Helping people in need has nothing to do with how absolutely ridiculous this board is.  I was merely satirizing a person\'s use of the word "retarded", an adjective I find deplorable.


I get you... I agree it\'s deplorable to use the word...I was thinking you were insulting the band etc. and it hurt. It sure hurts. ;o( Wahhhh

Just trying to help the guys out.
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« Reply #146 on: November 14, 2008, 12:02:51 pm »
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Strange though, I had a dream that we saw the Breakfast and Jordan switched off to playing bass and keys. They kicked some ass, even though it was in an old barn.


God, I hope the dream wasn\'t in Enfield, I hated seeing shows at that place...
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« Reply #147 on: November 14, 2008, 12:03:33 pm »
The band hurts themselves enough without any outside help.
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« Reply #148 on: November 14, 2008, 12:17:32 pm »
oh shut the fuck up joe u little crazy twurp!what the fuck do u know.if u got nothing nice or intellagent to say dont say it at all.go away,PLEASE!

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« Reply #149 on: November 14, 2008, 01:07:08 pm »
Adrian, I have been an AVID supporter of you guys ever since I first saw you back in 99.  I did my best to make you a little money back in 02.  And for what?  What was the payoff?  The payoff was to help you guys grow into a successful band.  It had nothing to do with me.  Just like countless of others who have tried time and time again to selflessly help/promote you guys.  I think it\'s safe to say that most of us are heartbroken.  We TRULY believed in you guys.  I wish you guys the best of luck in whatever you do and am very grateful for the shows I experienced, but I will NEVER keep you guys from the truth of A. the patterns of self sabotage you guys go through. B. How the majority of "jamband" fans perceive you. C. How much it hurts to watch something you believed in so much die a slow and painful death....

So call all the names you want, that\'s fine. Just know that some of us actually gave a shit and just because we didn\'t hit up 400 shows doesn\'t negate the fact that we were profoundly effected by your music and sought to share that experience with as many people as possible.
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