Was anyone else discusted by Bush\'s State of the Union Address Last Night?

[tyzack]

Fuck Cancer.

I have never been a fan of Teddy (or the Kennedys) politically, but that\'s not exactly good news.

[jocelyn]

Joc - I agree with you in the respect that I feel bad for the man and I hope that he recovers from this.  On the other hand, growing up, all I heard was Kennedy this and Kennedy that; basically because he was the first Irish/Catholic President.  I think that what we forget is that this family has all of the money and beautiful possessions and historic tradition because big daddy was a bootlegger and connected to organized crime during prohibition.  It was those connections that got JFK the election and it was those same connections that brought upon the demise for Jack and Bobby, albeit for different reasons.  So, yes, they\'ve lived a glamorous life and have been considered America\'s royal family, but when you take away all of their dirty money, they\'re just like the rest of us.  Again, I hope Ted recovers.

Actually, I haven\'t forgotten any of that. I am not among the star-struck when it comes to the Kennedys. This is exactly my point, that bringing this stuff up is totally inappropriate and irrelevant right now.

[Yoda]

Unfortunately it\'s impossible to mention the name Kennedy and not bring up the other stuff.  It\'s the same thing as people mentioning the british royalty (spits wad at the controlling bastards) without mentioning Diana - and believe me, I\'m sick of hearing about all of them.

[jocelyn]

Yeah, you\'re right. I guess I just feel badly for his family.

[SlimPickens]

Unfortunately it\'s impossible to mention the name Kennedy and not bring up the other stuff.  It\'s the same thing as people mentioning the british royalty (spits wad at the controlling bastards) without mentioning Diana - and believe me, I\'m sick of hearing about all of them.

It is possible.  It\'s called restraint, you should try it sometime.

[ds673488]

it seems like this family gets one tragety after another

[jocelyn]

Yeah, I feel really badly for all of his and his brothers\' kids and grandkids. It is a big family, and Ted has been a father figure to a lot of them.

[Yoda]

it seems like this family gets one tragety after another

If you make a deal with the devil, eventually the devil will come for his dues.

[jocelyn]

Can barely see you up there, your horse stands so high.

That family never deserved to have loved ones murdered, or sick and taken away from them prematurely. That\'s a cruel implication, not to mention incredibly callous.

[Yoda]

My comments are based on the fact that daddy Kennedy was mobbed up and used those connections to get the presidency for his son.  When his sons decided to turn their back on the deals that they made, well you know what happened.  Do I think it\'s right, no, does it surprise me, no.  We all know how that sort of business is done, whether we read about it in books, the paper, or have seen it glorified in movies and on tv.  Do I think this family has deserved the tragedy it has had, no, but you can understand why some of it has happened.  Having grown up in North Jersey and had friends and family who\'ve dealt with these people, you know to stear clear at all means (and by these people, I don\'t mean the Kennedy\'s).

[tyzack]

That family never deserved to have loved ones murdered, or sick and taken away from them prematurely. .

No family does.

That statement doesn\'t really mean anything.

[SlimPickens]

My comments are based on the fact that daddy Kennedy was mobbed up and used those connections to get the presidency for his son.  When his sons decided to turn their back on the deals that they made, well you know what happened.  Do I think it\'s right, no, does it surprise me, no.  We all know how that sort of business is done, whether we read about it in books, the paper, or have seen it glorified in movies and on tv.  Do I think this family has deserved the tragedy it has had, no, but you can understand why some of it has happened.  Having grown up in North Jersey and had friends and family who\'ve dealt with these people, you know to stear clear at all means (and by these people, I don\'t mean the Kennedy\'s).

Ahh so you believe we should all be judged on the sins of our fathers.  Broseph help us all.

[Yoda]

I could be wrong, but I personally don\'t believe that Jack or Bobby were blind to the fact that Mob connections won the election.  I think that both were fully aware of what was going on and turned their back on the situation once they were both in a position of power because they thought that they couldn\'t be touched.  

Again, I don\'t think what happened to them was right, I\'m just not surprised by it.

[Vassillios]

*Puts on some Dead Kennedy\'s music*

[Yoda]

I\'d much rather play Bullet (Misfits)