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« Reply #300 on: August 20, 2004, 07:15:07 pm »
who\'s gonna do it? you lieutenant weinberg? you want me on that wall. you need me on that wall. i go to sleep at night in the most populated city in the state, ready to do WHATEVER it takes when the experts panic and you question the methods i use to do my job. i would prefer you just say thank you and go on your way. either way....i don\'t give a damn what you think your entitled to. ;)

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« Reply #301 on: August 20, 2004, 07:38:54 pm »
just like the last one....here\'s another one that although i don\'t totally buy into it, i find it humorous and thought provoking


Clinton TRIPLED the counterterrorism budget for the FBI, and doubled
counterterrorism funding overall.

He captured, tried and convicted Ramzi Yousef, Abdul Hakim Murad, and
Wali Khan Amin Shah, the persons behind the first WTC bombing, who were
also planning to kill the Pope and blow up 12 US jetliners
simultaneously.  They also planned attacks on the UN Headquarters, the
FBI building, the Israeli embassy in Washington, the LA and Boston
airports, the Holland and Lincoln tunnels, and the George Washington
bridge, which were all thwarted by the Clinton Administration.

The Clinton Administration also rolled up Al-Qaeda cells in over 20
countries.  And they created a top-level national security post to
coordinate all federal counter-terrorism activity.

Barton Gellman of the Washington Post reported, "By any measure
available, Clinton left office having given greater priority to
terrorism than any president before him." And Clinton\'s was "the first
administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort."

Congressional facists fought EVERY effort by the Clinton
administration to increase anti-terrorism funding.

In 1998, the Clinton Administration Tomahawked targets in Sudan and
Afghanistan in retaliation for terrorist strikes against our embassies
in Kenya and Tanzania.  Clinton himself issued a presidential directive
authorizing the assassination of Osama bin Laden after said embassy
attacks.

After the bombing of the USS Cole, Clinton put Richard Clarke in charge
of creating a comprehensive plan to take out Al-Qaeda, but the plan was
not put in place by the Bush Administration until after 9/11.

The only reason Clinton did not act out on his Al-Qaeda elimination plan
was because he did not want to hand the Bush Administration a war when
they took office.  Instead, the plan was handed over to the Bush
Administration, which they IGNORED.  Clarke was fuming during those
first months of the Bush Administration because no one would listen to
him.  The Bush Administration also refused to implement to
recommendations of the Hart-Rudman report, issued on 2-15-01.



i agree with many of you on many of these issues. bush just scares the hell out of me.

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« Reply #302 on: August 20, 2004, 07:58:46 pm »
The ant busts his ass in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he\'s a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter the ant is warm and well fed, but the grasshopper is cold and hungry.

The shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving. CBS, NBC, and ABC show up and show pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to film of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food.

America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can it be, in a country of such wealth that this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so? Then a representative of the NAAGB (The National Association of Green Bugs) shows up on Night Line and charges the ant with "Green Bias" and makes the case that the grasshopper is the victim of 30 million years of greenism. Kermit the frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper and everybody cries when he sings "It\'s Not Easy Being Green."

Bill and Hillary Clinton make a special guest appearance on the CBS evening news and tell a concerned Dan Rather That they will do everything they can for the grasshopper who has been denied the prosperity he deserves by those who benefited unfairly during the summer, or as Bill refers to it, the "Temperatures Of The 80\'s".

Finally the EEOC drafts the "Economic Equity and Anti-Greenism Act" RECTRO-ACTIVE to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and having nothing left to pay his Retro-Active taxes, his home is confiscated by the government.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant\'s food while the government house he\'s in....which just happens to be the ant\'s old house.... crumbles around him since he doesn\'t know how to maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow. And on the TV; which the grasshopper bought by selling most of the ant\'s food, Bill Clinton is standing before a wildly applauding group of facists announcing that a new era of "Fairness" has dawned in America.

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« Reply #303 on: August 20, 2004, 08:19:11 pm »
That last one was awesome! lol Man who thought tales we learned as children would be so helpful now? Man this election is gonna be crazy.
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« Reply #304 on: August 20, 2004, 09:45:52 pm »
just for the record....i just spent the last couple of hours busting instead of sitting on my ass

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« Reply #305 on: August 21, 2004, 02:57:37 am »
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just for the record....i just spent the last couple of hours busting instead of sitting on my ass

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« Reply #306 on: August 21, 2004, 12:17:26 pm »
I wasn\'t trying to imply that all facists are non-working, lazy grasshoppers.  But I guarantee that not one non-working, welfare abuser is a facist!  A few bad apples spoil it for your entire party!
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« Reply #307 on: August 21, 2004, 12:35:29 pm »
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I wasn\'t trying to imply that all facists are non-working, lazy grasshoppers.  But I guarantee that not one non-working, welfare abuser is a facist!  A few bad apples spoil it for your entire party!


Guarantee that? I doubt it. You forget that facists/facists are first humans and I guarantee that there IS a non-working, welfare abusing facist out there. You forget that there are some people who vote facist because they were taught to. Not everyone that votes is educated. That is to say there is no test you have to take to vote, you just gotta sign up. This country is made up of many non educated, non informed voters who have a family tradition of voting facist even as this act takes food from their table.

This is Bush\'s main hope that the majority of Middle America stays as ignorant as it has proven to be in the past and he grabs the traditional gop states. Otherwise he\'s fucked!
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« Reply #308 on: August 21, 2004, 12:56:27 pm »
no...but you are implying that all facists are right thinking, hard working, morally correct people who do everything properly. when people speak in absolutes with guarantees, THAT scares me.

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« Reply #309 on: August 21, 2004, 06:03:51 pm »
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when people speak in absolutes with guarantees, THAT scares me.


Right-o Duane, that is precisely what I was trying to say in one of my earlier posts. Anyone who can\'t see flaws on both sides is either brainwashed or stupid.
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« Reply #310 on: August 21, 2004, 07:25:27 pm »
i don\'t vote one party or the other but i tend to vote facistic. i did vote for george bush sr. and never voted for bill clinton. this guy along with the extremely aggressive right wing that love him just scares the piss out of me. my civil liberties are just eroding away one by one and now he thinks the current mess gives him some sort of mandate to accelerate the process. (actually i don\'t think he thinks it.....it\'s what he\'s hearing from those around him....i don\'t give him credit for an original thought)... also.....as much of a selfish cynic as i can be....i still KNOW that we have to take care of those less fortunate than us...i don\'t like taxes any more than the rest of us but i pay them hoping that the proper amount will go to helping people to help themselves in the form of jobs and opportunities. at the same time, i do want a strong military and i do feel that the liberals have put us in great jeopardy since the end of the "cold war" (my era ;) ). i tend to like a strong military minded father figure of a president with a house and senate full of liberal free thinking do gooders to bring forth ideas. i also tend to vote against mediocre incumbents  of either party cause i don\'t want any of them to feel too comfortable while they feather their own nests (ie. pensions,salaries, and better health care than anyone else in the country by far!). those that make the laws in this country tend to do whats best for them and theirs instead of whats proper. it\'s all about money and lobbying and both parties are guilty as hell but i don\'t feel like the facists are trying (as hard) to get in my car, my computer, my piss or my very thoughts like the extreme right wing is.

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« Reply #311 on: August 22, 2004, 08:58:21 am »

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« Reply #312 on: August 23, 2004, 10:33:36 pm »
Daily News

BUSH\'S BORN AGAIN DRUG WAR
by Paul Armentano, AlterNet, (Source:AlterNet)
12 Aug 2004

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Whereas previous administrations commonly framed their anti-drug arguments in secular terms, Bush\'s drug war, at least rhetorically, resembles that of a religious crusade.  

Listen to George Walker Bush speak about substance abuse and it\'s apparent that one is listening to a preacher, not a president.  "There are faith-based organizations in drug treatment that work so well because they convince a person to turn their life over to Christ," Bush divulged to the religious journal Christianity Today.  "By doing so, they change a person\'s heart [and] a person with a changed heart is less likely to be addicted to drugs and alcohol."

Despite US Constitutional restrictions requiring a separation of church and state, Bush\'s ardent Judeo-Christian faith - the President is a practicing Methodist who "accepted Jesus Christ into [his] life" in 1986 - remains the staple of his administration\'s anti-drug platform.  Whereas previous administrations commonly framed their anti-drug arguments in secular terms ( i.e., former President Richard Nixon\'s "War on Drugs" or the Reagan administration\'s "Just Say No" campaign ), Bush\'s drug war, at least rhetorically, resembles that of a religious crusade.  GW\'s bottom line: Only through "God\'s will" may one be "saved" from the temptations of illegal drugs.  It\'s a stance that many drug law reformers view as not only ineffective, but possibly illegal.  

President Or Proselytizer?

"You know, I had a drinking problem.  Right now I should be in a bar in Texas, not the Oval Office," Bush told author David Frum in his 2003 biography The Right Man.  "There is only one reason that I am in the Oval Office and not in a bar.  I found faith.  I found God.  I am here because of the powers of prayer."

While stories recounting the President\'s prior alcohol and drug use - so-called "youthful indiscretions" - are well publicized, not as well known is his 1986 spiritual awakening that led him to quit his use of intoxicants cold turkey.  It\'s this personal journey that led Bush to reach his conclusion that other drug users - recreational pot smokers in particular - must also undergo their own, albeit coerced, religious conversion to achieve drug abstinence.  After four years in office, it\'s clear that Bush is willing to use the bully pulpit and Congress\' deep pockets to accomplish his goal: a drug-free, religiously indoctrinated America.  

As President, one of Bush\'s first actions was to sign an executive order establishing a White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, presently headed by "Faith Czar" Jim Towey.  In 2002, the Bush administration awarded nearly 500 faith-based programs - including several drug "education" and treatment programs - $477 million in taxpayers\' funding.  In 2002, Bush doled out an additional $568 million in federal funds to 680 self-identified faith-based groups - programs like the fundamentalist Christian drug-treatment project "Set Free Indeed," which states: "We rely solely on the foundation of the Word of God to break the bands of addiction.  Once a person ...  recognizes that only God can set them free, the rebuilding process can begin." To date, the Bush administration has funneled several million dollars to "Set Free Indeed," and the President singled out its founder by name during his 2003 State of the Union address, lauding it as a shining example of federally-backed faith-based drug treatment.  

Religion has also been the theme of several new, high profile anti-drug campaigns launched by the administration.  In 2003, just months after being tapped by Bush to head the US Drug Enforcement Administration ( DEA ), Karen Tandy threw her weight behind a grassroots anti-drug campaign called "Pray for the Children," which according to the group\'s website, maintains, "The power of prayer is unequaled" in influencing adolescents from refraining from drug use.  Regarding her endorsement of the program, Tandy explained, "Drug abuse is a scourge that attacks a person\'s soul as well as body, so it\'s fitting that the solution should engage the soul as well."

Also last year, Bush launched "Faith.  The Anti-Drug," a multi-million dollar campaign to encourage the religious community to incorporate pot abstinence into their spiritual teachings.  "Faith plays a powerful role in preventing youth marijuana use," announced Drug Czar John Walters - himself a disciple of notorious "virtuecrat" and former drug czar William Bennett - at the campaign\'s kickoff party.  He added, "We are urging youth ministers, volunteers and faith leaders to integrate drug prevention messages and activities into their sermons and youth programming, and are providing them with key tools and resources to make a difference."

Faith.  The Anti-Drug?

But are such campaigns "making a difference?" And are they even appropriate? Critics resoundingly say "no" on both counts.  

"Religious drug treatment programs [like those favored by Bush] turn back the medical clock to the 19th Century," says Samantha Smoot of the Texas Freedom Network, a faith-based initiative watchdog group whose membership includes over 7,500 religious and community leaders.  "The President values programs that say: \'We can pray you out of your addiction\' more than programs that say: \'We will treat your addiction with counseling, medical treatment and spirituality.\' Even more outrageous is his insistence that taxpayers foot the bill for his dangerous approach."

It\'s also potentially unconstitutional, according to Rev.  Barry W.  Lynn, Executive Director of Americans United, a religious liberty watchdog group based in Washington, D.C.  that argues for the importance of church-state separation in safeguarding religious freedom.  "This is a massive shell game," he says.  "The administration insists no public funds will be spent on religion, then turns those funds over to groups that openly brag about how much religion they have in their programs.  The level of duplicity is staggering."

However, according to drug law reformer Charles Thomas, founder of the Interfaith Drug Policy Initiative, religious faith can play a pivotal role in drug policy - though not in the way Bush decrees.  

Faith teaches that it\'s essential that America\'s drug laws be just and compassionate, Thomas wrote in the May/June issue of the interfaith journal, Fellowship.  "People of faith may play an essential role in building public support for treating drugs as a health issue instead of a crime," he explained.  "Regardless of whether or not it\'s immoral to use drugs, it certainly is wrong to punish people solely for using drugs.  Personal morality issues should be addressed by the faith community and family, not by cops, courts and prisons."

Don\'t tell that to GW, however, who has escalated criminal drug law enforcement during his Presidency and overseen the arrests of nearly 5 million Americans for drug crimes - most for no more than minor drug possession.  Regrettably, like the Crusades of old where religious transformation typically occurred "by fire and sword," the Bush administration ultimately believes that today\'s drug users federally ordained path to redemption is best achieved by way of a jail house conversion.  

This article originally appeared in Heads Magazine in Canada.  

Paul Armentano is the senior policy analyst for The NORML Foundation in Washington, DC.  



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« Reply #313 on: August 24, 2004, 12:03:33 pm »
So remember, if you\'re a drug addict who has not "accepted" Jesus Christ as your savior, you\'re shit outta luck. Go stand in the corner and rot with everyone else who doesn\'t subscribe to the exact same values as a mere portion of our country. That\'s right, contrary to popular belief, not every American believes in Christianity or even religion. Clearly, we\'re less patriotic than those who do. Maybe our votes should only count for half. Actually, they probably will.

I mean everybody nose that booze wasn\'t Bush\'s lone drug problem. He really is a true Elvis. I guess he just prayed harder than Elvis did so god spared him.

I hear Bush\'s next anti-drug program involves using leeches to suck out the addiction. We\'re such an evolved society. So free.

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« Reply #314 on: August 25, 2004, 11:53:39 am »
oh my.....

*sigh*

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