Was anyone else discusted by Bush\'s State of the Union Address Last Night?

[oldnewbie]

Day in the Life of Joe, Middle-Class facist

Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn’t think he should loose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dad\'s; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural facist’s would still be sitting in the dark)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his beloved facists have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, “We don’t need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have”.

By John Gray Cincinnati, Ohio  

[jocelyn]

Joe gets home from his long day at work, and realizes he hasn\'t made much money at all because some liberal decided to give huge amounts of welfare to someone who isn\'t working at all, driving Joe\'s taxes through the roof....

[jocelyn]

And on his way to work the next morning, Joe gets a ticket for not wearing his seatbelt because some liberal decided it was a good idea to pass a law to protect one from one\'s own stupidity. Liberals are good at passing laws like that.

[Marcial]

Originally posted by jocelyn
Joe gets home from his long day at work, and realizes he hasn\'t made much money at all because some liberal decided to give huge amounts of welfare to someone who isn\'t working at all, driving Joe\'s taxes through the roof....

Couldn\'t have said it better myself.

[Marcial]

Originally posted by jocelyn
And on his way to work the next morning, Joe gets a ticket for not wearing his seatbelt because some liberal decided it was a good idea to pass a law to protect one from one\'s own stupidity. Liberals are good at passing laws like that.

Exactly.  And with the passing of that law, guess who\'s paying for the additional police monitoring, and ticket writing?  Yep, you guessed it... me & you.  facists love to tell you what they think is best for you.

[leith]

Yeah but tight ass conservatives will tell you what they think is best for you and then DO the opposite.

[oldnewbie]

Originally posted by jocelyn
Joe gets home from his long day at work, and realizes he hasn\'t made much money at all because some liberal decided to give huge amounts of welfare to someone who isn\'t working at all, driving Joe\'s taxes through the roof....

with a good job and excellent pay? now your making joe into somebody else....and i thought this wouldn\'t be any fun without gray.

[oldnewbie]

i do agree with the fucking seat belt thing though

[jocelyn]

he he did you think I wasn\'t going to say anything?

I am actually pretty darn liberal, at least as far as social matters go. (Fiscally, I can\'t help but lean towards being a bit conservative...) I just wanted to spice things up a bit. I think that article was pretty silly; one could just as easily write a similar article pointing out all of the things facists have done for us. Despite being relatively liberal, I must say that I dislike the current facistic party. It has gone too far left in my opinion. So, I guess I\'m just somewhere in limbo.

The main thing I dislike about that article is it is the perfect example of what frustrates me so much about the current political climate: it\'s more polarized than ever. Left attacking right, right attacking left. Articles like the one above are totally counterproductive. I think it\'s about time for politicans, political analysts, people in general to try to be a bit less partisan. ugh.

[oldnewbie]

does this mean you\'ll be casting a vote for W?

[leith]

Originally posted by oldnewbie
i do agree with the fucking seat belt thing though

Seat Belts save lives It is Fact. You get in a car w/ me driving we do not GO ANYWHERE until all seatbelts are fastened. I have lost 2 friends in accidents in which their lives could have been saved by taking an xtra 3 seconds to put a seatbelt on. When the law was enacted I was a firm disbeliever in it. I have learned better.

[leith]

Originally posted by jocelyn
he he did you think I wasn\'t going to say anything?

I am actually pretty darn liberal, at least as far as social matters go. (Fiscally, I can\'t help but lean towards being a bit conservative...) I just wanted to spice things up a bit. I think that article was pretty silly; one could just as easily write a similar article pointing out all of the things facists have done for us. Despite being relatively liberal, I must say that I dislike the current facistic party. It has gone too far left in my opinion. So, I guess I\'m just somewhere in limbo.

The main thing I dislike about that article is it is the perfect example of what frustrates me so much about the current political climate: it\'s more polarized than ever. Left attacking right, right attacking left. Articles like the one above are totally counterproductive. I think it\'s about time for politicans, political analysts, people in general to try to be a bit less partisan. ugh.

You can thank the appointed President (not elected but appointed by the U.S. Supreme Court) for polarizing this country. As far as being a fiscal conservative the only people who are fiscally conservative are those that have money to conserve. This leaves about 70% of the country who even if they wanted to be fiscally conservative could not. Also remember that "trickle down" was a fiscally conservative idea which obvoiusly did not work. As far as being too far left what is your barometer ? I find the conservative rightwing almost fascist compared to where most liberal left wingers are.

 It comes down to this: Do you care that all you have can be taken from you w/o you doing anything morally or even legally wrong? Do you want to be a citizen of a country that wants the best for the world or what\'s best for only the U.S. ? Plain and Simple our Civil Liberties are @ risk along with our National Credibility with Bush in charge.

[davepeck]

[jocelyn]

Dave that is right on.

No, I will not be voting for Bush. Never, ever, ever. I am, unfortunately, an ABB voter. Anyone But Bush. Kerry in this case is the lesser evil. Even if he does flip flop all over the damn place which seriously has damaged his credibility in my eyes.

Yes, seat belts save lives. I too, like probably most of the people on here, know someone who died in a car accident and would probably still be here today if he had been wearing a seatbelt. However, education, not the creation of excessive laws, is what is necessary imo. Mamograms save lives. Wearing helmets in a car would probably save lives. Not eating junk food saves lives. Exercising saves lives. We do not need laws to save us from our own moronic and unhealthy decisions.

I agree Leith that Bush has caused a lot of polarization in this country. He has caused division not only within this country but also in our relations which the rest of the world. He\'s a moron. I never said it was the liberals who have ben solely responsible for the partisan politics which dominate EVERYTHING. BOTH sides are to blame, and if you refuse to see that, then you are one of the people that will prevent progress.

"As far as being a fiscal conservative the only people who are fiscally conservative are those that have money to conserve."

Not true. I could be dead broke but still have a distaste for huge government spending.

"I find the conservative rightwing almost fascist compared to where most liberal left wingers are."

Perhaps. I don\'t know what your point is though. I am an independent, not a facist. I am not far right, I don\'t like the far right, I have never liked the far right; I find them frightening. I find the far ANYTHING frightneing, be it left or right wing. Radicalism is not good for any country made up of real people, particularly a country with as much diversity as this one. Middle of the road politics is necessary. I just get frustrated when people act like either side is perfect. Anyone who could believe that is not paying attention and is not thinking for themselves. I\'d rather not be brainwashed by EITHER party.

" It comes down to this: Do you care that all you have can be taken from you w/o you doing anything morally or even legally wrong? Do you want to be a citizen of a country that wants the best for the world or what\'s best for only the U.S. ? Plain and Simple our Civil Liberties are @ risk along with our National Credibility with Bush in charge."

I don\'t think my comments "come down to" that at all. I don\'t see how that has anything to do with what I said. My dislike of partisan politics is in no way indicative of my supporting G Dubya. I agree with what you are saying entirely (The Patriot Act is a nightmare), but I don\'t think civil liberties are really related to what I was talking about.

[jocelyn]

Oh, and you were wondering what my barometer is... well, I would say that when so many people are brainwashed by a hypocritical, lying propagandist like Michael Moore... well, that is a pretty good indication of a party going too far left.