Thoughts On Why Attendance Is Down

[bezerker]

flame away

ok.  eat a d !

[Vassillios]

well, i\'m not in the band. that\'s obviously why nobody comes.

[Overexjoesure]

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[sallyalli]

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you should all chill. let the band deal with these things.
All you can do is continue to make it to as many shows as possible and do a little promo when you can.


maybe the reason kids are not coming to shows is that they come on .info and find out the fan base is full of big bitchy bithes. that was a joke.

[Overexjoesure]

don\'t shoot me, i was just reiterating that brilliant statement from the first page.  This is the number one reason I hear from non Bfam Breakfast fans.  At this point it\'s beyond laughable, and now starting to seem absolutely pathetic and pointless.  It sucks too because musically this lineup IMO has been the best and has the potential to bring a lot of amazing music to a lot of people.

[bezerker]

you should all chill. let the band deal with these things.

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[ds673488]

i think its 2 MAIN things...

1. Ron and jordan are not in the band anymore
2. (which is in essence part of 1): most of the original fan base (that is now in their late 20\'s/30\'s, yet another point), are from new haven proper and originally somehow through the grapevine knew the band.  Now everyones older, the band isnt the same hometown crew band anymore, and that "vibe" isnt there anymore.

I mean, just ask most of the people who have been there from the start (and the ones who have clearly stopped going since jordan, then even more since ron left).



The REAL test for the breakfast will be if they can get out on the national jamband scene and really wow the crowd that doesnt yet know them.  START FRESH, dont worry about booking shows in new haven area just because you know there will be that home crew who will go to every show....unfortunately, as everyone can see, that is not there anymore!

from what i have gathered in my short time here, the breakfast rode WAY too long on their hometown following.  and it was GREAT for a while (hey, who wants to travel when you can pack 1000 shows into the northeast and get good crowds for almost every one?).  Now it is a reality check because a lot of the originals arent into it anymore (for whatever reason, there are MANY as i stated before).

go out, tour, find new people.  and you old timers, tell young kids how cool the breakfast are, they will come.  its the only way the band will keep rolling.

:end rant....:

[Lerherbles]

I\'m from Mass so coming down to CT to see them like I used to all the time costs way more now than it did a couple of years ago.  It\'ll probably costs me like 50 bucks in gas alone.

[DocEllis70]

joe, you post once in a blue moon and it really reminds us of how much of an ass you are.

[bezerker]

im no one to talk, but that post really does piss me off.  prick

[SlimPickens]

If blur your eyes and you use the up and down arrows on your keyboard and scroll back and forth over that really long message you can start to see patterns in the words.  Do it for long enough and the patterns start forming a message.  Keep doing it and the message becomes clear.

[bdfreetuna]

I\'m from Mass so coming down to CT to see them like I used to all the time costs way more now than it did a couple of years ago.  It\'ll probably costs me like 50 bucks in gas alone.

where in Mass homie?

[Kaliguitar]

are you sure that\'s a joke?  There may be some truth in that statement.   On Friday I was talking to some long time fans at the Daniel St. show and they seemed to think this is part of the problem.  Some people think many fans have gotten chased away from the band by the negative vibe that starts on this forum.  The harassment can be brutal sometimes and the how many times can people defend someone by saying, "oh they\'re really a good person and they mean nothing by their comments".  

The rule should be: state your opinion (because everyone has the right to) but skip the brutal attacks on people who don\'t agree with you.

[jocelyn]

I\'m aware that I\'m as much of a bitch as anyone, but I will say, there HAS been a LOT of bitchiness around here lately. Was wondering if anyone else noticed.

[postom]

are you sure that\'s a joke?  There may be some truth in that statement.   On Friday I was talking to some long time fans at the Daniel St. show and they seemed to think this is part of the problem.  Some people think many fans have gotten chased away from the band by the negative vibe that starts on this forum.  The harassment can be brutal sometimes and the how many times can people defend someone by saying, "oh they\'re really a good person and they mean nothing by their comments".  

The rule should be: state your opinion (because everyone has the right to) but skip the brutal attacks on people who don\'t agree with you.

a lot of people who go to the breakfast don\'t even read this forum.  also, if you like a band, and don\'t go see them because a few people you\'ve never met were jerks to you on the internet, then you\'re a giant loser and should stay home anyway.

look at say, the biscuits message board.  if this philosophy were true they wouldn\'t have any fans at all.

if they like the band enough to find the band\'s message board, i don\'t think that \'randoms\' being jerks will be an issue.

I\'m aware that I\'m as much of a bitch as anyone, but I will say, there HAS been a LOT of bitchiness around here lately. Was wondering if anyone else noticed.

i\'m sorry i wanted the band to play in boston