The Band Rivalry Throwdown Thread

[Yoda]

I commented on my personal taste.  I can\'t stand Rap or Hip Hop.  So sue me if I\'m not up on modern music.

[boombox]

I commented on my personal taste.  I can\'t stand Rap or Hip Hop.  So sue me if I\'m not up on modern music.

With you on that one I am - alone, you are not, my small wizened friend.

Some of these showdowns are quite interesting to think about, but not all are IMHO worth the effort. I didn\'t like rap when it first started making headway and I don\'t like it now - not enough melody, too much posturing and concern for image, too much racism, too much violence associated with its "stars" and above all, I can\'t stand the monotonous delivery and lack of groove... I can manage some of the Beasties in small doses and some of Franti\'s stuff is good, but that\'s as far as I go.

And "voice of the people?" - not this guy here. Sorry wolfman, but if I want apposite political and social comment, give me 60s Bobby Zimmerman or any era Paul Kantner or Country Joe. They know what\'s what and can still write a damn good tune to express themselves, rather than hijacking others\' work and ruining it by looping it and droning on almost indistinguishable caca over the top.

[skalnbyc]

Some of these showdowns are quite interesting to think about, but not all are IMHO worth the effort. I didn\'t like rap when it first started making headway and I don\'t like it now - not enough melody, too much posturing and concern for image, too much racism, too much violence associated with its "stars" and above all, I can\'t stand the monotonous delivery and lack of groove... I can manage some of the Beasties in small doses and some of Franti\'s stuff is good, but that\'s as far as I go..

I think hiphop is getting pretty frickin\' stale.  The only way I\'d listen to any of the new stuff is if there was a real band making real music (and they do exist and I do like a few).

One other thought to add: most "songs" are ripped off samples of older tunes with some douchey thug rhyming over about bitties, blunts, cars, cribs, colts and other miscellaneous lines of empty self-promotion.  A lot of the people who listen to hiphop don\'t even listen to the lyrics, as they are more more enamored with the catchy sample (which can be Motown, pop, heck even Steely Dan has been used) which they often do not know the origin of.

[Klout]

jay-z is better than biggie and tupac combined

[Mamalakabubadaya]

jay-z is better than biggie and tupac combined

you can\'t be ser.

[zuke583]

biggie > dylan

:wah:

how about aerosmith vs. bon jovi

[Yoda]

biggie > dylan

:wah:

how about aerosmith vs. bon jovi

I think a more apropriate one would be

Springsteen vs. Bon Jove (Bruce by a mile)

[zuke583]

biggie > dylan

:wah:

how about aerosmith vs. bon jovi

I think a more apropriate one would be

Springsteen vs. Bon Jove (Bruce by a mile)

should have specified...

worst band ever that\'s somehow really popular: aerosmith vs. bon jovi

i don\'t like bruce, but i can at least respect what he does...not so much with those two

[Klout]

we\'ve had this discussion before holly. still ser. Reasonable doubt, blue print, blue print 2.0 the gift and the curse, dynatsy, voume 1 volume 2 volume 3 all classics.  

Best flow, best lyrics, best beats, best  mix of street and pop, most flashy, most ballin, realest, most bitches, jiggiest mofo in the game.

[Drew_Kingsley]

The Breakfast vs. Phish

(I have the feeling that I am going to regret posting this... but I think it could be a good question if everybody thinks about it before they respond.)

[Vassillios]

Hip hop WAS the new music of a generation, but like NAS says, hip hop is dead. It\'s slowly declining, making way for whatever will be the next big thing. I am a hip hop fan, definitely, but only the creative, melodic, thought provoking lyrical kind (underground) that many of you naysayers have not heard. Mainstream rap is awful, i think we can all agree on that. But many of the good MCs are able to play with a live band at their shows which is cool, and for that I give them plenty of respect.

I read an article in Relix how the Roots are trying to be the "black phish." And I gotta say, they are awesome live.

The Breakfast vs. Phish

(I have the feeling that I am going to regret posting this... but I think it could be a good question if everybody thinks about it before they respond.)

How about \'94 Phish v. \'05 Breakfast?

shit i dont even know if i can answer that

[Klout]

only the creative, melodic, thought provoking lyrical kind (underground) that many of you naysayers have not heard.

I like a lot underground stuff but even some of that is even more wack and bullshit than lil wayne or whoever in the main stream.....i.e.....immortal technique...."its all a conspiracy, everyone is plotting against me..kill george bush, kill kill kill the white man, burn the constitution, I\'m a not a rapper I\'m a revolutionary leader, extreme anger and violence are cool and acceptable if they are for some wacko delusional cause"...

:fucktard:

totally down with the positive underground though

[zuke583]

The Breakfast vs. Phish

(I have the feeling that I am going to regret posting this... but I think it could be a good question if everybody thinks about it before they respond.)

How about \'94 Phish v. \'05 Breakfast?

shit i dont even know if i can answer that

i\'ll answer for you: \'94 phish

[Klout]

Zuke did you see any phish shows in 94? I didn\'t ,  So I would have to go with 2005 breakfast.

\'95 is a whole different story though

[FrankZappa]

i\'ll answer for you: \'94 phish

I didn\'t see any of the 94 tour either but you can\'t argue with the recordings.

How about phish summer 91 tour with the horns vs all of 92 vs all of 93 vs fall 97?