The Band Rivalry Throwdown Thread

[Wolfman]

OK, here\'s a shitstorm thread that needs to happen!

Discuss all classic band v. band matchups, or come up with new ones.  Half the discussion could be whether two bands even warrant discussion against each other.  Album v. album is also OK too.    

Some classics:

Beatles v. Stones
Led Zep v. The Who
Phish v. Grateful Dead
Nirvana v. Pearl Jam
Miles v. Coltrane
Biggie v. 2Pac
Sugarhill Gang v. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five
Beethoven v. Bach

Some reaches:
Tool v. Iron Maiden
SCI v. moe.
Rush v. Yes
Motley Crue v. Poison


Some albums:
(same band)
Houses of the Holy v. Led Zep IV
Rift v. Junta
White Album v. Sgt. Pepper\'s
Deuce v. Real Radio

(different band)
The Wall v. Tommy
Curtis v. Graduation

[postom]

i\'ll cast my vote after seeing poison tomorrow night.

and ugh, don\'t put that fluffy bullshit up against moe., even as a stretch :-P

[ChrisF]

hey wolfman, why dont u do it up like the tournament of tunes only with bands?? it would probably get pretty outta control.

[Kaliguitar]

Stones
Zep
GD
Pearl
Miles
Who cares
Who cares
Beethoven
maiden
Moe
Rush
Crue

IV
Rift
white
RR
Tommy

+ Pat Metheny VS John Scofield

Metheny

[Lexington]

no way!
houses of holy
Sgt Pep
Duece

and bach!

[bezerker]

ok for one thing, YES owns rush

[Lexington]

^^^^thanks, i didn\'t want to be the one to say it

[bezerker]

^^^^thanks, i didn\'t want to be the one to say it

should be a common fact  .firmed

[Yoda]

OK, here\'s a shitstorm thread that needs to happen!

Discuss all classic band v. band matchups, or come up with new ones.  Half the discussion could be whether two bands even warrant discussion against each other.  Album v. album is also OK too.    

Some classics:

Beatles v. Stones Beatles
Led Zep v. The Who The Who - mainly because I can listen to Daltrey 24/7; after so long, Plant\'s voice starts to wear on me.
Phish v. Grateful Dead Tough call, but I have to go with the Dead
Nirvana v. Pearl Jam Pearl Jam
Miles v. Coltrane Don\'t know enough about them to comment, but I enjoy both of them
Biggie v. 2Pac I don\'t like rap, so I think they both suck
Sugarhill Gang v. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious FiveDon\'t know enough about them to comment
Beethoven v. BachI enjoy both of them equally

Some reaches:
Tool v. Iron Maiden Maiden
SCI v. moe. Who cares
Rush v. Yes Rush
Motley Crue v. Poison The Crue


Some albums:
(same band)
Houses of the Holy v. Led Zep IV IV
Rift v. Junta Junta
White Album v. Sgt. Pepper\'s Sgt. Pepper
Deuce v. Real Radio Deuce

(different band)
The Wall v. Tommy Tommy - they\'re both great albums, but I don\'t want to slit my wrists after I listen to Tommy.

Curtis v. Graduation

What about Hendrix v. Clapton
Lennon v/ McCartney
Sgt. Pepper v. Pet Sounds
Pet Sounds v. Smile
PF w/out Roger v. Roger solo

[boombox]

^^^^thanks, i didn\'t want to be the one to say it

should be a common fact  .firmed

doubly so IMHO!!

Even if you discount early 80s Yes, which was not their finest hour, the fact that Rush started a slow slide with Power Windows, from which they never recovered, puts Yes way out in front.

And I wonder if I\'ll be the only one to rate sci over moe - true, they lost the plot a little with the over-reliance on techno at the end, but at least they were trying new material - moe.\'s setlist have been stagnant for years.

[Igziabeher]

[FrankZappa]

everyone\'s going to pick Beethoven but bach is just as good. Still, the styles are completely different. Bach wrote very straight forward and directly on the beat rhythms with sophisticated syncopations. Not to say that Ludwig didn\'t, but many of Bachs pieces were written for one person to preform on a multi-keyboarded organ with footpedals and require a very advance sence of rhythm to preform. Not that beethoven didn\'t write hard to play passages and entire pieces, but he wrote more for larger orchestra, quartets, quintets, solo piano, etc. In each case Beethovens brilliance comes from getting many people to play together to make a united piece larger than it\'s parts. i.e., the individual isn\'t working nearly as hard as they are in some of bach\'s works. And in the case of the solo piano pieces, it\'s just one keyboard, not 4+ working in rounds.

A better comparison would be motzart to beethoven, or listz to bach.

[Drew_Kingsley]

Deuce v. Real Radio

For me,this one depends on how the question is defined. I like Real Radio better as an album, but I like the song selection on Deuce more by a landslide (w/ no disrespect to Scheme and Gravity).

[ds673488]

the breakfast vs. RAQ :duck:

[Wolfman]

the breakfast vs. RAQ :duck:

I knew that was coming, since it\'s been beaten to death on this board over the years I left it out of the original post.

Stones
Zep
GD
Pearl
Miles
Who cares
Who cares
Beethoven
maiden
Moe
Rush
Crue

Who cares about Biggie v. Tupac and Sugarhill v. Furious Five?!?!?!  Like a billion people!  Hip-hop is the voice of the people for the past 20 years!  Rock held that title when it was fresh and new in the 60s and 70s, but Nickelback and Linkin Park (another battle for you) aren\'t exactly causing any stuffy politicos to suggest banning their music.  

Tupac is the better poet but Biggie had more style.  Not that either guy was lacking in either department, I mean, we\'re talking Tupac\'s 10 for lyrics vs. Biggie\'s 9.5, and Biggie\'s 10 for style vs. Tupac\'s 9.  I give the edge to Biggie, he\'s the Babe Ruth of hiphop, he just is.

Also, Furious 5 mop the floor with Sugarhill Gang.  This one\'s not close enough to justify an analysis IMO.  If you listen to each catalog even one time through it\'s pretty obvious that the Furious 5 had way more style and innovation.