ya know, i\'m torn about these guys.... i like about half of every song of theirs, but i don\'t like the other half enough that i never have the patience to sit through a whole show or even song. i think mainly its his vocals that i don\'t like. if they were an instrumental band, then i think i\'d like them better... and i *despise* his falsetto, so it doesn\'t help that it seems like he manages to slip it into most of their tunes....