DUI/DWI Talk

[Yoda]

I wouldn\'t trust the accuracy of wikipedia, but assuming that it\'s correct, wouldn\'t it be safe to say that it would be in someone\'s best interest to limit themselves to two drinks early in the night if they know that they have to drive?  Like I said before, it all comes down to self control.

[postom]

One 12 oz beer = 0.8 BOC (for the most part)

I\'m not sure what a \'BOC\' is but if you\'re referring to BAC (Blood Alcohol Content) 0.8 is twice the lethal dose limit in 50% of adults.

If you meant to say 0.08, you\'re still wrong. It would take 4 beers for a male between the 160-180lbs to reach 0.08/0.09 BAC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content

one of these days i\'m buying a breathalyzer.  when i do you can all use it after shows

[kindm's]

I wouldn\'t trust the accuracy of wikipedia, but assuming that it\'s correct, wouldn\'t it be safe to say that it would be in someone\'s best interest to limit themselves to two drinks early in the night if they know that they have to drive?  Like I said before, it all comes down to self control.

This is probably the safest thing to do if you must drink at all. recently I have been having nothing to drink when I am driving. I have found the freedom of worry to be very uplifting to some extent. If you haven\'t had a drop then the police have nothing. And if you aren\'t carrying  etc it is even better.

I have no problem with the police setting limits to BAC. What I do take issue with is the infringement of our constitutional rights because of MADD. Because of MADD it is OK for the police to setup "safety checkpoints" ie. Road Blocks. It was their organization that pushed for this crap. Now it is being used more and more under the guise of safety, when we all know it is a dragnet and IMHO and infringement on my rights as a US citizen. Having to stop and show papers simply because you happen to be on a road. That is about as unamerican as you can get. Of course SCOTUS says it isn\'t really an inconvenience so they say it is OK.

This is the major reason why the founder of MADD left the organization. She has stated many times that they have become fanatic about Prohibition and that was not the original intent of the group.

They have also encouraged police in Texas (where they are based) to go in to bars and arrest people for public intoxication (how being in a private establishment is public is beyond me). People who are just sitting there drinking, not near a car or whatever. They justify everything they do as "Think of the Children".

RE: Sleeping it off in your car.

It depends on the state but if your keys are within reach they can arrest you. If you must sleep in your car, DO NOT leave the keys in the ignition, DO NOT have them in your pockets, If you can lock them in the trunk or something. Of course it really will come down to whether or not the police officer really wants to give you a hard time. It sucks when people try to do the right thing by getting off the road and not driving to then get busted for it.

[Todd]

A bar I used to go to had a "novelty" breathalyser machine just inside the door. It would cost you a quarter to have your breath measured. It clearly stated that it was not to be used to determine weather or not you\'d get busted. It lasted for a couple years until some dingleberry decided to sue the bar and the machine manufacturer.

[davepeck]

keychain breathalyzer for anyone interested:

http://www.drinkingstuff.com/drinkingstuff_gadgets_ds0001.htm

[postom]

keychain breathalyzer for anyone interested:

http://www.drinkingstuff.com/drinkingstuff_gadgets_ds0001.htm

if only it had a .05-.08 limit instead of .05-.1.

[kindm's]

:rolleyes

MADD’s Statement Regarding Grand Theft Auto IV

Each year nearly 13,500 people die in drunk driving crashes and another half a million are injured in alcohol-related traffic crashes. This is why MADD is extremely disappointed by the decision of the manufacturers of the game Grand Theft Auto IV to include a game module where players have to drive drunk. Drunk driving is not a game and it is not a joke. Drunk driving is a choice, a violent crime and it is also 100 percent preventable. MADD is calling on the Entertainment Software Ratings Board to reclassify Grand Theft Auto IV as an Adults Only game, a step up from the current rating of Mature and for the manufacturer to consider a stop in distribution – if not out of responsibility to society then out of respect for the millions of victims/survivors of drunk driving.

[SlimPickens]

A bar I used to go to had a "novelty" breathalyser machine just inside the door. It would cost you a quarter to have your breath measured. It clearly stated that it was not to be used to determine weather or not you\'d get busted. It lasted for a couple years until some dingleberry decided to sue the bar and the machine manufacturer.

that wasn\'t a novelty breathalyser, it was a gloryhole and some christmas tree lights!

[Todd]

A bar I used to go to had a "novelty" breathalyser machine just inside the door. It would cost you a quarter to have your breath measured. It clearly stated that it was not to be used to determine weather or not you\'d get busted. It lasted for a couple years until some dingleberry decided to sue the bar and the machine manufacturer.

that wasn\'t a novelty breathalyser, it was a gloryhole and some christmas tree lights!

Well...then I\'m very glad I never used the thing!!!

[tyzack]

On GTA IV:

(and video games in general)

IT IS A GAME.

No one ever complained when Lego made pirate ships complaining that they promoted murder, piracy and everything cool.

On sleeping:
I am still not sure that I have to open the door if a cop knocks on my window.

[SlimPickens]

On GTA IV:

(and video games in general)

IT IS A GAME.

No one ever complained when Lego made pirate ships complaining that they promoted murder, piracy and everything cool.

On sleeping:
I am still not sure that I have to open the door if a cop knocks on my window.

Just for argument sake:  the lego pirate ship didn\'t graphically show rape, murder and the other cool stuff you can do on GTA.  

And second:  If you don\'t want your window smashed in, I\'d say open the door.

[tyzack]

On GTA IV:

(and video games in general)

IT IS A GAME.

No one ever complained when Lego made pirate ships complaining that they promoted murder, piracy and everything cool.

On sleeping:
I am still not sure that I have to open the door if a cop knocks on my window.

Just for argument sake:  the lego pirate ship didn\'t graphically show rape, murder and the other cool stuff you can do on GTA.  

And second:  If you don\'t want your window smashed in, I\'d say open the door.

Okay maybe not rape, but you can definetly do murder.

Steps:
1.) Remove the head from one figure
2.) Take the sword from another figure and place it on the neck of the currently headless dude
3.) Hold the sword in place while replacing the head on the body, you now have a figure who is actively being murdered.

You can do the same with a sword to the stomach.

No, you can\'t do rape.

[derickw]

the cops will bust your window to make sure your alive. i would think as long as the keys weren\'t in the ignition and your not booting out the door or window the cops wont bother you. they\'ll only bust your balls if your being shady

[Yoda]

http://wcbstv.com/seenon/nj.woman.shot.2.603742.html

This happened recently in my town and the next town over.  What the article doesn\'t mention is that she was drunk and sleeping it off.  And cops will give you a hard time for sleeping in your car.  Paul - do you remember the cop that wouldn\'t let us crash in the diner parking lot on the way home from Oswego.  I figure it\'s better to sleep in a parking lot off the road, rather than sleeping on the highway doing 60+ mph.

[tyzack]

http://wcbstv.com/seenon/nj.woman.shot.2.603742.html

This happened recently in my town and the next town over.  What the article doesn\'t mention is that she was drunk and sleeping it off.  And cops will give you a hard time for sleeping in your car.  Paul - do you remember the cop that wouldn\'t let us crash in the diner parking lot on the way home from Oswego.  I figure it\'s better to sleep in a parking lot off the road, rather than sleeping on the highway doing 60+ mph.

I know they bust you for sleeping on the side of the road - happened to me a few years ago in CT.

I had assumed that if you were "resting" at a "rest" area, everything would be fine and dandy.

Dinner parking lots are private property, so I guess they might have a case.

Moral of the story; don\'t drink and drive, but we already knew that.

And no, I don\'t know how to simulate legos drunk driving, because i don\'t think you can make them drink, but I don\'t know that for sure.