The Breakfast should open for UM

[Vassillios]

i dont think the breakfast should open for twiddle either (i was just reiterating leith\'s point) but they do attract a good crowd. if they opened for the breakfast again it would be huge.

[leith]

Yeah it must have been back in the PB days when TB opened for UM. It was at the fox theatre here in Colorado, according to Tim... musta been way back.

Twiddle opened for my old band in the showcase lounge at HG 2 years ago and the place sold out... now they are headlining their own shows. The kids can\'t even legally drink yet, I don\'t think, but they sure can attract a crowd somehow. It would be a good deal for the Breakfast to get in with them in terms of HG.

http://www.twiddlemusic.com

If Twiddle does draw good crowds The Breakfast should not be above opening for them if asked and the money is right.

fuck twiddle. Sorry but the breakfast should never open for twiddle.
Twiddle has opened for the breakfast at higher ground before, (which is the when i saw them)

That type of attitude does no one any good. If The Breakfast were to get a guarantee and Twiddle can draw. There is no reason for it not to happen.

[Gfunk]

yeah i misunderstood and thought someone was recommending that the breakfast should open for twiddle which imo would be rediculous. sorry to hate on twiddle.

[weekapaug19]

any umphrey\'s fans, good time to buy tix for the calvin.  I just picked up 3 front row balcony seats on the right side

[Me!]

And people like you who do not support The Breakfast\'s opening acts that do more damage to the band then you realize. It\'s all about you scratch my back.....
If you think I\'m wrong you have no idea how the music business actually works.

So you are saying UM should open for the Breakfast sometime? (The Breakfast has already opened for UM)

And the Breakfast should open for Twiddle sometime?

I don\'t think The Breakfast has opened for UM. Pretty sure it was PB and at the time both bands were waaaay closer in terms of draw.  It would be a personal favor if anything at this point and I don\'t think they are that tight.

http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1749

Setlist: 2004-03-26 - Georgia Theatre; Athens, GA

I: Inner Glimpse, Sleeping Beauty, Beef Barley, Doughboy, Hard Luck Harry > Wild Pack Of Asscracks, Karn Evil 9, Spunk*

* Bass/Drum Solos.

I\'m pretty sure this was the "Introducing The Breakfast" tour  and, UM brought a rough 350 heads.  It was a great show, and as I said in another post, these two bands work great together.

[leith]

And people like you who do not support The Breakfast\'s opening acts that do more damage to the band then you realize. It\'s all about you scratch my back.....
If you think I\'m wrong you have no idea how the music business actually works.

So you are saying UM should open for the Breakfast sometime? (The Breakfast has already opened for UM)

And the Breakfast should open for Twiddle sometime?

I don\'t think The Breakfast has opened for UM. Pretty sure it was PB and at the time both bands were waaaay closer in terms of draw.  It would be a personal favor if anything at this point and I don\'t think they are that tight.

http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1749

Setlist: 2004-03-26 - Georgia Theatre; Athens, GA

I: Inner Glimpse, Sleeping Beauty, Beef Barley, Doughboy, Hard Luck Harry > Wild Pack Of Asscracks, Karn Evil 9, Spunk*

* Bass/Drum Solos.

I\'m pretty sure this was the "Introducing The Breakfast" tour  and, UM brought a rough 350 heads.  It was a great show, and as I said in another post, these two bands work great together.

yeah I do think they were The Breakfast then and UM was in the middle of a huge growth spurt. nice find. I even posted in that thread.

[Gordo]

Personally, I never go to a show to listen to an opening band... I\'m there to see a headliner, not another band.  Often I show up too late, or go somewhere else during the opening slot.  OK, so I\'ve been pleasantly surprised for a few openers (like last week - The Bridge) but often it won\'t make me buy their album.

I completely disagree with this reasoning. First of all, that\'s you. Second of all, how many openers have the caliber of musicianship that The Breakfast do? I\'d be willing to bet those that have comparable skills don\'t continue opening shows.

I\'m worn out on all this arrogance. Not necessarily this post specifically, but lately it seems like there are a handful of .infoers that lick TB\'s balls no matter what and talk shit about anything that doesn\'t shed the light of god on their shoulders, even if they\'re suggestions to HELP a band by people who frequently do shed the light of god on their shoulders. The band is still very far from "making it" in this scene and to think opening for a successful band is pointless is bullshit. They\'ve never tried this touring tactic extensively.

It doesn\'t need to be a world tour for 4 months that would diminish the hometown\'s precious time spent with their heroes and, oh yeah, friends. Just even the initial announcement of (in this case) "The Breakfast To Open For Umphrey\'s -- 8 shows in September" will turn plenty of heads and influence those who haven\'t given them a chance to do so. Then, the music is so undoubtedly solid that it WILL make a difference and WILL build a bigger fan-base.

We\'re not talking about all or none, this is a building process and I\'d be willing to argue that TLG, UM, and tDB have all benefitted tremendously because of the friendships they\'ve built. I think people who constantly glorify their own favorite band, be it TLG, UM, or tDB, are easily influenced by their endorsements and support for other bands.

*sigh* We just did this thread 5 weeks ago.  And this is at least the 30th iteration of this thread in .info history.  This topic is just old and beaten to death to me.  I guess there will always be some people who are unsatisfied no matter what the band is doing.  I have found my Breakfast life to be much more enjoyable and satisfying ever since I learned to support what they are doing rather than get bent about how they should be doing something else.  If the Breakfast wants to open for UM, fine.  If not, fine.    

This is what makes me sick. The self-interest is appalling. Sure you have an enjoyable and satisfying Breakfast life, I (like sooooo many others) on the other hand am starving. Being in the Midwest I can\'t help but feel like the band is treading water just the same as in 2004.

[leith]

You forget Nick that Seth is one of those that would not mind the band just playing the NE circuit. Why would he be interested in looking at other ways to get the band exposure? If they keep doing things the way they have he gets his wish so of course he supports what they are doing.

[Ren]

why do they have to stick to and stay in the jam band scene?!?!  i know they jam, but so do other more mainstream bands, fuck the hippie scene, nobody takes that music seriously, yeah, yeah i know the dead, phish, dave and abb were or are the most sucessful, and there are a ton of really talented people out there, but to A LOT of people that music is a joke, and usually induces a comment or two like, "oh yeah man, goin\' see them again, brah?  gonna get really fucked up and take some acid there too, man?"  it\'s time to break away...

ok, let the cricism of my comments begin...

[siflandollie]

"oh yeah man, goin\' see them again, brah?  gonna get really fucked up and take some acid there too, man?"  

I swear my dad said this exact thing as I headed out the door to Toad\'s 12/29

[Todd]

"oh yeah man, goin\' see them again, brah?  gonna get really fucked up and take some acid there too, man?"  

I swear my dad said this exact thing as I headed out the door to Toad\'s 12/29

rotflrotfl Yeah, I DEF. don\'t use "jam" and "band" in the same sentence when describing the band to my other friends.

[Overexjoesure]

Umphrey\'s is mainstreaming it to progressive rock. It would be best if The Breakfast followed suite...


Oh, and Gordo, post of the century :0 But it\'s fighting an uphill battle. I personally would be ok seeing them once a year if that meant they were playing theaters, touring nationally, making incredibly produced albums with a large budget and getting the recognition and appreciation that they so rightfully deserve!!

[derickw]

shoot i kind of look forward to them hitting the road. it\'ll give some time to pay some freak\'n bills

[Gordo]

why do they have to stick to and stay in the jam band scene?!?!  i know they jam, but so do other more mainstream bands, fuck the hippie scene, nobody takes that music seriously, yeah, yeah i know the dead, phish, dave and abb were or are the most sucessful, and there are a ton of really talented people out there, but to A LOT of people that music is a joke, and usually induces a comment or two like, "oh yeah man, goin\' see them again, brah?  gonna get really fucked up and take some acid there too, man?"  it\'s time to break away...

ok, let the cricism of my comments begin...

The Breakfast will always have a much harder time breaking out of the jamband scene because of their vocals. Without their jams they are an average band. I\'m not saying compositionally they\'re average, but them as a total package without huge jams is a package sent to the wrong address. I know a quick rebuttal would be, "What about Phish then?" I think they were an exception due to timing-- they truly were pioneers and threw a twist on the "Dead scene" which has become the bar and a transparent influence-- and their studio work is flawless.Their music was incredibly diverse, original, and uniquely natural, and they NAILED the studio every time. The Breakfast are great, don\'t get me wrong, but I can see their lack of universal appeal and don\'t see them breaking out of the jamband scene.

I, on the other hand, describe them as a jamband, then further explain their strong points of being my favorite jamband (ie balls to the wall rock and funk with the best guitarist out there). What I love about them is they seem to not worry too much about this strange negative connotation given to \'jambands\' recently, even by those who are in the "scene", and draw out genuine improv 5-10 minutes at a time, 5-10 times a night. They are a jamband, I don\'t see what\'s wrong with saying that. Let me guess, Todd, your answer to "What kind of music do they play?" is, "Everything... they just defy genres and are limitless... I don\'t know, it\'s like, they\'re on another planet man, just really unbelievable stuff."

[ds673488]

i consider TB a jamband, although there are a lot of bands that peple lump into the "jamband" category who are far from it:

few examples:
YMSB
MMW
soulive
dave matthews band