Author Topic: Ellis should add to his set design.  (Read 2800 times)

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Ellis should add to his set design.
« on: January 31, 2008, 02:56:37 am »
He could have some cool tension fabric or muslin material in his arch or as a backdrop behind the arch.
It would give him more depth to work with and maybe decrease the audience eye damage from his flashy flashy style. ;)
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2008, 08:34:06 am »
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He could have some cool tension fabric or muslin material in his arch or as a backdrop behind the arch.
It would give him more depth to work with and maybe decrease the audience eye damage from his flashy flashy style. ;)


not sure I understand, do you have a photo example?

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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2008, 09:31:49 am »
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Quote from: leith;178279
He could have some cool tension fabric or muslin material in his arch or as a backdrop behind the arch.
It would give him more depth to work with and maybe decrease the audience eye damage from his flashy flashy style. ;)

not sure I understand, do you have a photo example?

http://www.pictureline.com/category.php?cid=134

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his flashy flashy style. ;)
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 10:17:54 am »
man, ANYTHING to reduce the rate at which my retinas roast would be really rad.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 10:40:55 am »
They need a light board like the Biscuits...
 

 
Unfortunately, I think its out of their price range

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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008, 11:27:14 am »
I think they need to start getting more heads to shows before they worry about creating the utlimate light show, unless someone is going to donate the equipment to the band.
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2008, 01:04:47 pm »
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man, ANYTHING to reduce the rate at which my retinas roast would be really rad.


:lol: I personally like my eyes flashing from the lights after the show... it hits me as hard as the music did!  ;)
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2008, 01:43:12 pm »
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man, ANYTHING to reduce the rate at which my retinas roast would be really rad.


:lol: I personally like my eyes flashing from the lights after the show... it hits me as hard as the music did!  ;)


I agree, it\'s like those old reviews of the grateful dead "an assult on all your senses"

The flashing of the lights to my eyes goes well with the bombardment of my eyes by the notes.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2008, 01:54:53 pm »
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He could have some cool tension fabric or muslin material in his arch or as a backdrop behind the arch.
It would give him more depth to work with and maybe decrease the audience eye damage from his flashy flashy style. ;)

not sure I understand, do you have a photo example?



Those hanging pieces of fabric are Transformit brand tension fabric. Basically spandex. More expensive so probably more down the line. Muslin is a tougher fabric not stretchable as the tension fabric but with the right size piece he can still make a backdrop to work off of.
I just may know someone that already has one but it may be going to another band.

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I think they need to start getting more heads to shows before they worry about creating the utlimate light show, unless someone is going to donate the equipment to the band.

You underestimate the value and pull of a full fledged lighting show.
 Besides these things I mentioned are far from the "ultimate light show" but rather an inexpensive way(Muslin) to fill out the set design now and give the crowd more for their money. While thinking about the future and the possibilities.

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man, ANYTHING to reduce the rate at which my retinas roast would be really rad.

:lol: I personally like my eyes flashing from the lights after the show... it hits me as hard as the music did!  ;)

I agree, it\'s like those old reviews of the grateful dead "an assult on all your senses"

The flashing of the lights to my eyes goes well with the bombardment of my eyes by the notes.

Candace\'s lighting was never as annoying and aggressive as Ellis\' lighting style.

No Way No How.
If anything that woman created huge palettes of color to accentuate the music being played and eased one\'s eye and helped create mood just as much as the band. She is still doing that with WSP now.
What those reviews were talking about were the untrained anybodies that would
just flash lights while tripping balls at Acid trips and the such. Ellis is not just an anybody and has come a long way but......

Ellis is obsessed with becoming the next Kuroda. He just does not have the toys so he overcompensates. When he has a rig that is decent, he is not nearly so annoying. Toad\'s shows are a great example as he knows the rig and has what he needs to create a great show w/o being so flashy flashy.
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2008, 02:02:33 pm »
I\'m not underestimating a light show.  I personally think that you need to get people in before you spend money and set up time on a light show.  Let\'s not put the cart before the horse.
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2008, 02:12:58 pm »
Ellis rules.

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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2008, 02:17:09 pm »
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I\'m not underestimating a light show.  I personally think that you need to get people in before you spend money and set up time on a light show.  Let\'s not put the cart before the horse.


At this level a lighting show is a BIG draw.  It also gives a bit more credence to a band than one w/o a "full show".
Besides they already have a lighting show and their fulltime LD already puts time into setting up his show and this would not add that much more time.
Having seen the direct effect of adding lighting to bands and seeing the increase of interest in those bands I think it would be a great idea and think that it would be just another way to get more heads to shows.

Better idea than you have come up with in this thread.
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2008, 02:20:22 pm »
I think Leith is right. I see absolutely no reason to not improve the show-goer\'s experience if it can be done for a reasonable amount of money and effort. A better, more complete experience will help keep new fans coming back.
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2008, 02:37:54 pm »
it would be a nice separator from the back of the stage and whatever gear/random shit is back there. just like 3 or 4 hanging backdrops would look pretty sick
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2008, 11:43:51 pm »
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Ellis rules.


totally.  after rereading my other posts, i think i came across too critical.  i\'m not trying to bash ellis\' skills as a lighting designer.  let me just say, i think he does a fabulous job. the kid\'s definitely got chops, i just don\'t like lights in my eyes/not being able to see the band.  just one man\'s opinion.  but seriously, i would love to see what he\'d do with a nicer rig.

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