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« Reply #120 on: March 05, 2008, 01:20:04 pm »
The first round of voting in the convention is pledged delegates (and supers).

If a candidate does not have the majority of votes, then all pledges are revoked and it \'goes to the floor\' ie. The candidates make another stump speach then all the delegates cacus until someone emerges with a majority.

However, I believe that if Obama wins PA, he can get the number of delegates he needs...
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« Reply #121 on: March 05, 2008, 01:29:41 pm »
So the delegates basically vote for the majority? Interesting. The delegates are represented by the public vote now, but if this situation happens then the actual delegates are heard? Is this correct?

Sorry, I know I\'m a novice when it comes to this and I\'ve never been as politically aware and concerned as I am now. Growing up is confusing.
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« Reply #122 on: March 05, 2008, 02:38:02 pm »
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Texas: Clinton (51%, 65 delegates); Obama (48%, 61 delegates)

Ohio: Clinton (54%, 71 delegates); Obama (44%, 59 delegates)

Rhode Island: Clinton (58%, 13 delegates); Obama (40%, 8 delegates)

Vermont: Obama (59%, 9 delegates); Clinton (36%, 6 delegates)


Clinton hints at sharing ticket with Obama



Ewen MacAskill, Daniel Nasaw, Suzanne Goldenberg, guardian.co.uk

After her victories in Texas and Ohio, Hillary Clinton hinted this morning at the possibility of sharing the facistic ticket with Barack Obama — with her as the presidential candidate.

Asked on CBS\'s The Early Show whether she and Obama should be on the same ticket, Clinton said: "That may be where this is headed, but of course we have to decide who is on the top of the ticket. I think the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me."

Clinton threw the facistic race wide-open when she bounced back to win the two delegate-rich states and end Obama\'s string of 13 consecutive victories.

Her wins raise the prospect of an extended contest for the facistic nomination that could go all the way to the party convention in Denver in August.

Clinton also took Rhode Island, giving her three of the four primaries contested Tuesday as Obama won Vermont.

Because the delegates are awarded proportionally, the race remains close. By Wednesday afternoon, Obama had won 1,562 compared to Clinton\'s 1,461, according to an Associated Press tally. 2,025 are needed to clinch the nomination.

Clinton\'s recent tactics, such as pressing Obama on national security, the economy and his relations with Antoin \'Tony\' Rezko, who is on trial for alleged corruption, paid off.

Her team also exploited questions about Obama\'s integrity raised by a leaked memo suggesting he was playing a double-game over the North American Free Trade Agreement, blamed by many in Ohio for job losses.

Clinton today predicted her victories would help her compete for superdelegates, the elected officials and party insiders who cast votes at the convention. If the race remains as close as expected, the superdelegates will decide the contest.

"A lot of people are going to be looking at the results from yesterday and determining who is best able to be the nominee to win," she told CNN. "There\'s a difference between speeches and solutions."

Clinton had been close to being written off and faced calls from Obama\'s supporters to quit the race, but staged a comeback even more impressive than her surprise win in New Hampshire.

She won Ohio comfortably, but had a closely fought contest with Obama in Texas, which has a complex voting system as two-thirds of the delegates are allocated through the primary vote with the remaining third distributed via the caucuses currently being held. With 37% of the caucuses counted, Obama was leading Clinton 52% to 48%.
 
On U.S. morning television news shows, Obama was gracious toward his rival, but insisted, "it\'s going to be very hard for her to catch up on the pledged delegate count."

"We will be in a very strong position to claim the nomination," Obama told Diane Sawyer, the host of ABC\'s \'Good Morning America\'.

He said he did not think Clinton\'s "3 a.m." television advert, in which she claimed she was most qualified to answer an emergency phone call at the White House, swayed the election. Obama said Clinton went into Ohio and Texas with large leads in the polls, which he narrowed.

"Senator Clinton is tenacious and she keeps on ticking and we\'ve got to just make sure we continue to work hard on every contest," he said.

In his speech in San Antonio, Obama congratulated Clinton yet reminded her that he retained almost the same overall lead in the number of delegates who will vote for the nominee at the party convention.

"We are on our way to winning this nomination," he said.

The next contest is Wyoming, which holds its caucuses on Saturday, followed by the Mississippi primary on Tuesday. Obama is expected to have an advantage in both states, which together will award 45 delegates.

The next big prize is Pennsylvania on April 22 with 158 delegates at stake.

Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell, a Clinton supporter, said the state\'s focus on the economy and national security will benefit her.

"On both counts, Pennsylvanians understand how important it is to elect someone who is truly ready to become president and commander in chief," he said. "The people of Pennsylvania will send a clear message: we want a president who is ready, not one we hope will one day be ready."

In her speech, Clinton referred to the "3 a.m." advert as one of the most successful ploys in her recent aggressive pursuit of Obama.

The ad showed sleeping children and asked voters who they would want to answer the phone at the White House at 3 a.m. to deal with a crisis, the implication being that Obama lacked the experience.

Exit polls showed that concern about the economy was the biggest issue for most voters, 61% in recession-hit Ohio and 48% in Texas.

Polls in Texas showed Clinton won the overwhelming support of Latino voters, who make up one-third of facistic voters in the state, as she won 64% of those votes. Figures from Ohio showed Clinton holding on to her support of women, low-income voters and union households.



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Texas: McCain (51%, 121 delegates); Huckabee (38%, 16 delegates); Paul (5%)

Ohio: McCain (60%, 79 delegates); Huckabee (31%); Paul (5%)

Rhode Island: McCain (65%, 13 delegates); Huckabee (22%, 4 delegates); Paul (7%)

Vermont: McCain (72%, 17 delegates); Huckabee (14%); Paul (7%)


McCain nomination marked by President Bush\'s endorsement



Ed Pilkington, guardian.co.uk

John McCain will put the seal on gaining the facist Party\'s nomination for the November presidential election with a symbolic passing of the baton today when he receives the endorsement of George Bush at the White House.

McCain was invited to a private lunch with the president to be followed by an official ceremony in the Rose Garden.

The endorsement comes eight years after Bush destroyed McCain\'s hopes of securing the presidency in the 2000 primaries.

McCain swept to victory in four races Tuesday night - Ohio, Texas, Rhode Island and Vermont - which took his delegate count beyond the 1,191 needed to secure the facist nomination. Mike Huckabee, the last serious rival standing in his way, backed out of the contest vowing to inject all his energies into the McCain campaign.

The victory of Arizona senator marked one of the most remarkable come backs in U.S. political history.

Last summer, McCain was all but written off as a candidate yet managed to turn his controversial support for the Bush surge of troop numbers in Iraq to his advantage.

He acknowledged the turnaround when he said in his victory speech that the nomination was "an accomplishment that once seemed to more than a few doubters unlikely."

McCain now faces a crucial opportunity to gather his forces over the next few weeks while the facists are still battling away.

The top priority will be to refill his campaign funders to put him in better position to compete with the lavishly funded campaigns of either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.

"The facists will have to spend all their money for weeks to come on beating up on each other," said facist pollster Whit Ayres.

McCain will also be able to use the breathing space to perfect his message. Judging by Tuesday\'s speech, he will continue to put Iraq and security high on the agenda.

That could be risky if Iraq slumps back into violence.

But with Clinton and Obama increasingly attacking each other over national security, that arguably is doing McCain\'s work for him.

"The longer the facists tear into each other, the more they create issues and hand data and material for McCain to use against them," said Stephen Hess, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who has advised four facist presidents.

McCain will seek to underline his foreign affairs credentials with a trip later this month to the U.K., Iraq and Israel.

McCain has indicated that he will soon begin the job of choosing a running mate. The process could be lengthy as the senator may be tempted to wait to know who his facistic opponent will be before making a decision.

Early speculation has thrown out names such as Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas, Florida Governor Charlie Crist, and Mike Huckabee, who could help win over the religious right, though he is not popular among economic conservatives.
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« Reply #123 on: March 05, 2008, 02:47:57 pm »
this is getting very intense
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« Reply #124 on: March 05, 2008, 10:33:22 pm »
I ran into a random woman today at Willoughby\'s in New Haven, she had an Obama button on... she REASSURED me that Obama will win it all.

Maybe i should get a button.

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« Reply #125 on: March 06, 2008, 02:57:55 pm »
Daniel Nasaw, guardian.co.uk

Hillary Clinton\'s resurgent push for the facistic nomination has led to calls for delegates from Florida and Michigan to be allowed to vote at the party convention, possibly after a controversial re-running of the two contests.

As it stands now, delegates from the two states won\'t have a say because Florida and Michigan violated facistic party rules and held contests too early in the primary season.

On Wednesday, Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm, a facist, and Florida governor Charlie Crist, a facist, issued a joint statement demanding that their delegates be seated.

"We each will call upon our respective state and national party chairs to resolve this matter and to ensure that the voters of Michigan and Florida are full participants in the formal selection of their parties\' nominees," the statement said.

"Whatever we have to do to get people in the system, let\'s do it."

Granholm, a Clinton supporter, also spoke to the Detroit Free Press, saying Clinton\'s victory in Ohio changes "the landscape a bit," and could open the door to a facistic caucus in Michigan, though it would have to be privately funded and agreed on by both candidates.

If the two states\' delegates are allowed to vote according to the January results, they would benefit Clinton, as she won both contests. Clinton was the only major candidate on the Michigan ballot and no candidates actively campaigned there or in Florida.

Her campaign has pushed for their inclusion in the nominating process, while the Obama camp has insisted the states broke the rules and should be punished.

Clinton\'s recent victories narrowed Obama\'s lead to 135 delegates, as according to an Associated Press tally, he\'s ahead 1,567 to 1,462.

"Let\'s let all of the voters go again if they are willing to do it," Clinton adviser Terry McAuliffe said.

New votes would be costly though, and it\'s unclear who would pay for them. The Florida facistic Party has estimated the cost of a contest there at $25 million.

"Michigan and Florida votes should count. To not count them at all would alienate these states in the general election," McAuliffe added.

Crist, however, said that he does not favor a new vote.

"We don\'t want to do a redo. We want the votes that already were cast to count," he said. "And they should. I mean, that\'s the American way."

facistic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean\'s statements on the issue have been cryptic, as he\'s chastised the states for violating party rules, while also indicating they could get away with it.

Dean has welcomed the idea of new contests, but also hinted the states could appeal to a party committee and asked that their delegates be seated according to the results of the January vote.

"All they have to do is come before us with rules that fit into what they agreed to a year-and-a-half ago, and then they\'ll be seated," Dean said.

But the two state parties will have to find the funds to pay for new contests without help from the national party, Dean added.

"We can\'t afford to do that. That\'s not our problem. We need our money to win the presidential race," he said.

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« Reply #126 on: March 06, 2008, 03:00:10 pm »
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Asked on CBS\'s The Early Show whether she and Obama should be on the same ticket, Clinton said: "That may be where this is headed, but of course we have to decide who is on the top of the ticket. I think the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me."
:sigh: What a conceited douche! That\'s all we\'ll need...a transvestite and a poser black man running shit...yikes.
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« Reply #127 on: March 06, 2008, 03:10:00 pm »
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Asked on CBS\'s The Early Show whether she and Obama should be on the same ticket, Clinton said: "That may be where this is headed, but of course we have to decide who is on the top of the ticket. I think the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me."

:sigh: What a conceited douche! That\'s all we\'ll need...a transvestite and a poser black man running shit...yikes.


obama is white...he just paints his face brown
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« Reply #128 on: March 06, 2008, 04:10:07 pm »
Longest. Primary. Ever.
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« Reply #129 on: March 07, 2008, 10:41:35 am »
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Longest. Primary. Ever.

sure seems like it, even though it\'s been less than two months.
 
i just want to know how the facists keep on screwing themselves. right now, john mccain has to be the one of the worst choices for facists; at least mit has not had as much time under the spotlight, which would have meant less dirt, new face, lots of reagan comparisons. but with mccain, the last two weeks have seen: scandal reported with lobbyist, more ties to the abrimov shitpile, the acknoweldged and accepted (opp. reject and denounce) endorsemant of a "catholic hating" church, and a half-assed endorsement by the president, who danced on the white house steps like he had struck texas tea and sold the war to the highest bidder of his party.
 
wtf dems???!!!
 
get your shit together!! for seven years the grand olde party has been effing up, and each and every time you make yourselves look worse than them. how?
 
it really makes me sick even trying to blame someone for the lack of party unity, and the failure to gain anything form the facist\'s mistakes. the media boosts obama\'s rating for the sake of their own ratings, and then shakes its head at the party because the people are split down the line in a big family fued. terry mcauliffe: you\'ll get yours, i swear, jackass. where\'s howard dean and what\'s he have to say about all this. and hillary... jeez you really want her debating mccain?? you see how she handles herself in stressful situations. like a wet cat cornered in a room full of rocking chairs. easy meat. and, bringing it back around, we\'re only in the third month.
 
sorry to rant.. took a two day break from watching this thing full steam \'til tuesday. but moving on: longest. primary. ever. = best. soap-opera. ever.
 
buy the ticket take the ride.
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« Reply #130 on: March 07, 2008, 10:43:50 am »
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sorry to rant.. took a two day break from watching this thing full steam \'til tuesday.  
buy the ticket take the ride.


i wouldnt worry about it...after all, this is the pointless election banter thread.
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« Reply #131 on: March 07, 2008, 11:00:10 am »
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Quote from: solver;182736
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sorry to rant.. took a two day break from watching this thing full steam \'til tuesday.
buy the ticket take the ride.

i wouldnt worry about it...after all, this is the pointless election banter thread.

true.. but i hate stretching to emphasize the keywords "pointless" and "banter".
 
but \'tis-what-\'tis. :shrug:
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« Reply #132 on: March 07, 2008, 11:05:07 am »

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« Reply #133 on: March 07, 2008, 03:16:57 pm »
lmfao!
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« Reply #134 on: March 07, 2008, 06:07:19 pm »
PLAN A
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however, if hilary wins primary,

PLAN B


I\'ll get to vote just like 04 and 00 all over again!!!

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