Frank Zappa as a Guitarist

[Spunk]

um i could live without JG (travesty)

Zappa wasnt too jazzy of a guitarist, he played a lot of pentatonic, but kinda hung out on the 9th a lot, he wrote all sorts of crazy shit, I think he was the first Rockstar, and one of the first rock guitarists who did something progressive andoutside of the norm.... I mean John Mclaughlin was out at around the same time, and he was way jazzier and just as progressive, and more shreddin

[Lexington]

Anyone who thinks Jerry Garcia\'s "skills" were lacking has no real clue.
His guitar work is impeccable on so many studio works non GD or JGB related (over 50) you probably do not even know he is on.
Before he began his lifetime Chase of the Dragon there could def. be a case made that he was THE Guitar Player on the scene.

EVERYBODY wanted to play with Jerry. Why? Because he shredded!!!!!!!
I have a few discs of non GD related jams that Jerry is simply smoking fools on.

To say Zappa or Tim has more "skills" than Jerry Garcia is to me a statement made in ignorance.
To say that both Zappa and Tim\'s technical styles are superior to Jerry\'s would just be a different debate that would have a lot more merit.

look guy, jerry and trey. both were sick in their heyday, no denying that. both succumbeed to grimetime drug abuse and fizzled the fuck out, no denying that. both made their band mates embarrased that they couldn\'t even play the shitthat they wrote. i never said that jerrry\'s skills were lacking, but by god frank zappa is so much more "technically superior" that its silly. jerry has always been one of my fave musicians, as asong writer, soloist and fucking cultural icon. as far as guitar playing goes, FZ pwned.


my top 10 (in no order, subject to change)
jon mcglaughlin
FZ
django
lenny breau
wes montgomery
tpalms
john mayor (real dick)
stanley jordan
trey
jerry
hendrix
kenny burrell

ok i let my personal preferences get in the way, sue me. and i can\'t count

[leith]

Anyone who thinks Jerry Garcia\'s "skills" were lacking has no real clue.
His guitar work is impeccable on so many studio works non GD or JGB related (over 50) you probably do not even know he is on.
Before he began his lifetime Chase of the Dragon there could def. be a case made that he was THE Guitar Player on the scene.

EVERYBODY wanted to play with Jerry. Why? Because he shredded!!!!!!!
I have a few discs of non GD related jams that Jerry is simply smoking fools on.

To say Zappa or Tim has more "skills" than Jerry Garcia is to me a statement made in ignorance.
To say that both Zappa and Tim\'s technical styles are superior to Jerry\'s would just be a different debate that would have a lot more merit.

look guy, jerry and trey. both were sick in their heyday, no denying that. both succumbeed to grimetime drug abuse and fizzled the fuck out, no denying that. both made their band mates embarrased that they couldn\'t even play the shitthat they wrote. i never said that jerrry\'s skills were lacking, but by god frank zappa is so much more "technically superior" that its silly. jerry has always been one of my fave musicians, as asong writer, soloist and fucking cultural icon. as far as guitar playing goes, FZ pwned.


my top 10 (in no order, subject to change)
jon mcglaughlin
FZ
django
lenny breau
wes montgomery
tpalms
john mayor (real dick)
stanley jordan
trey
jerry
hendrix
kenny burrell

ok i let my personal preferences get in the way, sue me. and i can\'t count

okay cool

[sallyalli]

c\'mon, thats it? i don\'t care what they say, i think you\'re a good guy
-face

ps i\'d like to hear those discs of prime time jerry shreddin, if you make it out to any of these last shows. peace brotha

[ds673488]

the issue with "greatest guitarist of all time" that comes into play is that the greatest guitar player of all time probaby/almost certainly was not in any sort of a famous band.  in fact, he probably was rarely in bands at all because no one else could follow his lines.  Have you guys ever heard shawn lane?  i recently started listening to his stuff, and i dont know if he was ever in a band, but his guitar playing is unbelievable.  check him out on youtube.  ive also always said suke serulo from schleigho is one of the greatest players...his lines are NEVER in any set key whatsoever, never following ANY previously drawn out scale, and absolutely blazing fast and all over the place.  check him out too if you havent already.

this topic should be the greatest "Rock" guitar player of all time, in that case the choices are smaller, easier to choose from.

[Ant-Man]

um i could live without JG (travesty)

Zappa wasnt too jazzy of a guitarist, he played a lot of pentatonic, but kinda hung out on the 9th a lot, he wrote all sorts of crazy shit, I think he was the first Rockstar, and one of the first rock guitarists who did something progressive andoutside of the norm.... I mean John Mclaughlin was out at around the same time, and he was way jazzier and just as progressive, and more shreddin

ya, leith i\'m am totally convinced your completely out of your element now bud...

zappa = composer/arranger father of rock n roll...wish he focused more on his full band arrangements rather than the crazy vocals...

and for greatest i have to give it to hendrix only cause he pioneered it all, and sailed us outta the 12 bar stuff...

[Mark]

Zappa=One of a kind.

[booztravlr]

[peaches626]

Nice, Boozie.

[DocEllis70]

Zappa= Hard worker and Risk taker

too lazy to post a link to all the zappa wah posted in the Legal DL thread, but i recommend anyone who hasnt heard Roxy and Elsewhere or any of the albums for that matter to take advantage of that thread