Does this band need to succeed?

[Igziabeher]

For the past however many years each of us have ascended on a journey.  we each stumbled upon something that we found unique and loved and was proud to call our own and embrace.  all of us came together, and when that happened we in turn made the bonds that make us a family as thick as any birth canal.  not a single one person on here can tell me that their lives have had many better moments than the times we\'ve shared with eachother and came together and shared an energy that no other fanbase will ever know.  we\'ve had our ups and downs, and been kicked in the face, and all that jazz, but we held on tight to our band because we knew that with all the right ingredients and the stars are all aligned they are the greatest band on the planet. so with all that said do we need the breakfast to be financially successful for their 1000 plus shows and times spent with us to be a success on so many levels that no amount of dollar bills could ever count?

i didn\'t think so.  but it\'d be cool as fuck if they did.

[Whathefunk]

you are completely correct greg.  and while i don´t see this band ever becoming a money making machine... i wish for the sake of the music and the members of the band that they are able to continue making music for many years to come with a viable income.  that is to say, i think in the grand scheme of things that this band is probably in the higher percentages of successful bands in terms of finances.  just think of all the bands that have come and gone during the tenure of PB.  in the words of chubbs "we´ve only just begun".

one thing though that i must also point out, which i think is in congruence with your post igzy, is that i think alot of times on this board and amongst the fanbase, people worry too much about when this band is gonna blow up and become "successful".  this overshadows (at times) and underminds the amazing successes they have already reached such as winning a jammy, playing some of the nations biggest festivals, and creating and evovling some of the most inspiring art i´ve ever witnessed.  (to name a just few)  i usually opt not to read or partake in such threads discussing success on a financial level, but i think you have put it in an insightful way, and wonder if anyone can make an argument against what you have said. i doubt it.

[Yoda]

This is really a loaded post.  I don\'t think that there\'s a right way to answer, but I think if you asked the band,"Does this band need to succeed?", I think that they would answer hell yeah.  I don\'t think that $$$ is the only way they could succeed, but I think that\'s one of the things that they\'re trying to accomplish.  

If they weren\'t trying to succeed:

- They would still be named Psychedelic Breakfast
- They would only play in the Northeast and not try to play new markets
- They would not continually put out new studio material
- They wouldn\'t have needed to add Matt and Jordan might still have been with the band

In my personal opinion, they do need to succeed or this has all been one big party, which is all well and good.  But once you\'re done with education and are in the working world, and you need to support yourself and maybe a family, I think success is exactly what they are looking for.

[WALSH]

They wouldn\'t have needed to add Matt and Jordan might still have been with the band

I agree with everything you said except for this.  Matt and Jordan leaving have NOTHING to do with each other(outside of haveing an open space for Mtt bc Jordan was no longer there).  How by not succeeding would Jordan still be with the band???

I hear what your saying Igz, but if it could happen sooner, and the boys could stop having to worry about making ends meet(not saying blowing up, just getting comfortable), then they might get even better quicker by being able to focus on their craft in a band setting...i.e. less Timmy Tour shows to pay bills, etc.  Imagine if all they had to do was practice, record and tour.  Imagine them not having to pack hot sweaty ass into a van and having a reanted tour bus for a tour, i.e. Biscuits, Umph, etc.  I wish everyday that these friends of ours could make it to at least that level for their sake mentally and physically.  

I love these guys and all of you BFam out there!:beerban:

[davepeck]

if we want it to continue, then yes, i think they need to succeed.

[Yoda]

They wouldn\'t have needed to add Matt and Jordan might still have been with the band

I agree with everything you said except for this.  Matt and Jordan leaving have NOTHING to do with each other(outside of haveing an open space for Mtt bc Jordan was no longer there).  How by not succeeding would Jordan still be with the band???

My thought (and this is only my thought) is that if they didn\'t care about success, then they most likely would play on the weekends and would have other jobs to earn a living.  I don\'t know why Jordan left, but couldn\'t it be possible that if Jordan had another job and it didn\'t interfere with the weekend playing, then he might not have left the band.  That being said, Matt sounds great from the shows that I\'ve heard.

[Igziabeher]

I hear ya walshie, but its all about the presentation.  i could hear klout go on and on all day about they have to do this, or leith be like well tea leaf green does that, and thats what the breakfast need to do.  or joe or somebody else will come on and say hey if you guys are gonna succeed, your gonna have to stop playing this type of music and strictly play this or whathaveyou(as gavin would tell you).  and  big ups to all them for caring and having their opinions, but lets face it:

the breakfast don\'t have to do anything, but be themselves, and we don\'t have to do anything but enjoy it.  once thats all squared away, people will be like \'hey these fucking kids know how to handle their business and enjoy themselves\'  "what are they doing that we\'re missing out on, and why do we need that?"  yadda yadda yadda shaboom shebang.

[WALSH]

Ok, Yoda, I see your point in that regard.

I hear ya Igz, and I feel they need to make it doing their own thing, no matter what other bands have done...but I am talking more on the level of how good it could get if they could hold their head above water...that is what I want for them more than anything.  I wish they had no other worries in the world than their goal of making The Breakfast the biggest thing since sliced bread.

[FrankZappa]

we should institute communism. Then they wouldn\'t need to make any money in order to survive, the state would provide for them and they could play as much as they wanted.

[Lexington]

we should institute communism. Then they wouldn\'t need to make any money in order to survive, the state would provide for them and they could play as much as they wanted.

what a taint

[FrankZappa]

don\'t you have fish to count?

[Yoda]

Let\'s boil this down to simplest degree.  We all have jobs that pay for our bills/financial/personal needs.  The band does what they do to achieve the same results.  In order for them to continue doing this as we all would like them to, they need to succeed in gaining more ground and becoming more popular.  I know that there are some that want to keep The Breakfast as their band, but that\'s not fair to the band and to potential fans.  We should want them to grow to their full potential.  If they don\'t continue to grown and be more successfull, I guarrantee, there will come a point in their carreer where they will have to seriously consider whether continuing as is, is the right decision for them.  For that reason, we should all want and try and help them continue to succeed and grow as we all know that they can.

[oldnewbie]

we\'ve had our ups and downs, and some of us have fallen on our face

sorry gregg....had to fix that for ya.  

[Igziabeher]

i totally hear what you\'re saying.  no one is trying to seclude this band to just us, its just the hand we have been dealt more often than not.  success to you, may not be success to me, may not be the same success ron spears thinks and even tpalms may have a different opinion of what success really is.  thats why i think, the primary goal is not to be a successful band, but to just be the band.  to go out there as they have been and do their thing to the best of their capabilities and be happy with that.  thats when and where the breakfast is gonna become as successful as possible.  when they put their personal goals of success behind the groups goal to perform and enjoy eachother and us, and what have you.  if the band\'s primary goal is to enjoy themselves, focus on their music, use good business decision making and "let the good times roll"  then wouldn\'t success yield itself at some point or another?

[siflandollie]

With the addition of Matt to the band the Sex appeal factor has gone up so far... it\'s only a matter of time before people will be talking about the Breakfast with the likes of Kanye and Diddy, Gwen Stefani etc.