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« Reply #180 on: November 25, 2007, 08:05:56 pm »
Wow. Although the Bears have been dunzo for awhile, that was by far their most exciting game of the year. How fucking stupid can Shanahan/Sauerbrun be? Don\'t let Hester touch the ball, that\'s golden rule #1 when playing the Bears. But I would like to thank them for being fools. When he gets opportunities, Hester is the most exciting player in football. Ridiculous.
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« Reply #181 on: November 25, 2007, 11:11:06 pm »
Agreed. If you want to beat the Bears, make sure the offense has to do it. Do not give Hester any opportunity to touch the ball. The guy is fast and amazing.

Just looked at the Patriots score, not watching the TV, and was shocked to see the Eagles leading.

New Patriots team record of 442 points in a season. With 5 games to go.
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« Reply #182 on: November 26, 2007, 09:18:35 am »
Damn, the Eagles gave the Patriots a run for their money last night. Not sure about that pass interference call in the first half (negated a Moss TD) but I guess that\'s how it goes sometimes.  Also not sure why Feeley thought he needed to throw a deep ball at the end with tons of time on the clock and people open all over the middle of the field. The Pats D looked like shit last night. 4 TD\'s to the Eagles with Feeley\'s first start in a long time? Damn. Patriots offense didn\'t look all that great either. Either way they\'re 11-0 but showed many flaws last night.
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« Reply #183 on: November 26, 2007, 09:45:26 am »
I have been saying for a while that the Pats are not flawless. Their defense let them down last night, that much is true, however if any team out there wants to challenge them, all they have to do is force them to not pass.

The Patriots offense is not this unstobable machine. It isn\'t evenly balanced. That\'s how you beat them.
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« Reply #184 on: November 26, 2007, 10:56:49 am »


19-0: 8 to go[/B]

They say a lot of things about great teams.  Amongst the truest is this one: Even on their worst night, they find a way to win.

If you can find ways to win while playing your worst game, then when do you lose?  

This game is a greater testament to the Patriots\' greatness than their usual 30-point wins.  They made clutch plays when they needed them most.  Mid 4th quarter down 4 they had to go stop-score-stop to win, nothing else would suffice, and they did it.  They\'ve only had to prove themselves in the clutch 3 times this year, and they have delivered every time.  Sure, you have to be pretty badass to win by 4-6 touchdowns every week and threaten the NFL\'s alltime points differential and offensive scoring records.  But that\'s not going to last forever.  Not in December, when the weather gets cold, your good opponents have more on the line, and your weak opponents circle you as their personal Super Bowl.  

Now we get to see the other side of the Patriots\' greatness.  This is the clutch side, the Brady side, the Belichick defense side, the side that built the Patriots legacy over the last 6 years.  It\'s a different type of greatness than blowing teams off the field, and in the end, it\'s a more important type.  They\'ve been winning so easily this year that the casual Pats observer can easily forget that games like last night are really the norm that have built the legacy of the 21st century Patriots.

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« Reply #185 on: November 26, 2007, 07:26:57 pm »
touche wolfy. i absolutely agree.
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« Reply #186 on: December 04, 2007, 01:26:52 am »


19-0: 7 to go[/B]

Wow.  OMG.  Holy &$^%.  That was the most sensational, confrontational, thrilling, chilling, heart-stopping gut-wrenching football game I\'ve seen since...since...since last season\'s AFC Championship!!!  Hehe.  

For real, all due props to the Ravens, they played their hearts out.  Monday night home game + team\'s personal Super Bowl to knock off the Pats + 3 former Sean Taylor teammates at Miami=uber-jacked Ravens.  They were awesome.  

I have a question for the readers of this thread, answer honestly: This week, were you more excited to watch your team win or to watch the Patriots lose?  The highs and lows you experienced tonight as the Patriots were pushed to the absolute brink...were these peaks and valleys greater than what you felt watching your team yesterday?  Tell me if I\'m wrong, but I think for many people it has gotten to that point.

There was one very lucky play tonight, the rest of it was just superior gameplay when it mattered.  Remember, luck has to be rooted in something chaotic, such as how a football bounces or when the wind blows.  The lucky play was the Brady pass on the last drive that got deflected about 20 feet in the air and perfectly bisected 4 Raven defenders such that none could intercept it.  That\'s as lucky as it gets.  When the Baltimore sideline calls timeout right before their defense makes the game-winning stuff on 4th and one, that\'s not luck, it\'s poor gameplay.  So the Patriots were lucky to win based on that one play, but hey, you\'ve got to win some of those games too if you\'re going to be perfect.  You\'re just not going to beat everyone by 30 every week.  The Pats played the far superior 4th quarter, which is of course what matters most.  They scored 10 unanswered points in the 4th while posting 3 consecutive 3-and-outs when Baltimore just needed one more score or even just a couple of first downs to seal it.  The Ravens did an amazing job for 3 quarters, but it wasn\'t enough to overcome the Patriots doing a great job for 1 quarter, because of course the Patriots played their best in the 4th quarter.          

And how about that last Pats kickoff from the Baltimore 35!.  Never seen anything like that!

The Patriots look exhausted.  They have to be.  They\'ve played three straight night games, the last two as draining and exhausting as can be.  And now, with two less days of rest and prep, they take on a very tough Pittsburgh team.  This game coming up is the toughest game the Patriots will play the rest of this season, regular or postseason.  Obviously I\'m not going to predict a Pats loss, but lets just say that it wouldn\'t shock me this week.  Haters unite, this is it.  After this it\'s Jets, Dolphins, and a final game against a Giants team with nothing on the line who will be taking the week off to rest for the playoffs.  The Patriots are going 16-0 if they can get through this Pittsburgh game, there is no doubt about it.
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« Reply #187 on: December 04, 2007, 01:40:04 am »
At this point, I definitely look forward to Pats games moreso than Bears games. I want to see them run the table. No matter what I find myself getting excited and cheering for them late in close ball games. Can\'t explain why, but I definitely want 16-0 to happen. Come playoffs, when I have no personal emotional investment in the teams, I just want to see close games with crazy, memorable finishes. Next week should be very interesting.

I loved Brady\'s post game comment about the timeout on 4th down: "I heard the whistle. If they didn\'t call a timeout I would\'ve gotten the first down. But I knew, I heard the whistle, I stopped (laugh)." For those who didn\'t see it, the tone was sarcastic.
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« Reply #188 on: December 04, 2007, 01:47:30 am »
Do you 2 really think they are going to sacrifice going 19-0 for 16-0? Come On. That team is reaching deep now for wins that at the beginning of the year they would have strutted through.
This team is running out of gas trying to pull this off. They keep it up and they will lose to the Colts or Chargers in the playoffs. Both of those teams are looking better each week while the Pats are not.
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« Reply #189 on: December 04, 2007, 02:00:20 am »
It\'s a good theory leith, except that they\'re going to be able to win their last three games playing at 50-75%, then a full two weeks off before the playoffs.  Come January you will again see the force of nature that killed the men, women, and children in September and October.  They won\'t win by as much, but they\'ll look as good.  Pittsburgh has to get it done.

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« Reply #190 on: December 04, 2007, 02:04:25 am »
Quote from: Wolfman;171300
It\'s a good theory leith, except that they\'re going to be able to win their last three games playing at 50-75%, then a full two weeks off before the playoffs.  Come January you will again see the force of nature that killed the men, women, and children in September and October.  They won\'t win by as much, but they\'ll look as good.  Pittsburgh has to get it done.


I agree that Pittsburgh is the last hurdle for them in the regular season.
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« Reply #191 on: December 04, 2007, 06:49:06 am »
I want to know what happened to the Patriots defense?

If they are going to go 16 or 19 and 0 they have to get their points allowed back under 20, preferably, under 14.

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Also, I will admit that I am a weak sports fan in that I do not particularly enjoy watching my team lose. When the Pats got stuffed on 4th down, and clicked off the TV and walked away.
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« Reply #192 on: December 04, 2007, 08:37:45 am »
I think that I\'d give up the chance for the Jets to win another game this season in order to see the patriots lose a game.  And as much as this is killing me as a Jets fan to say, how great would it be to see them lose to the winless dolphins.  I think it is the only time in history where I\'d actually root for the dolphins.
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« Reply #193 on: December 04, 2007, 09:36:21 am »
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I have a question for the readers of this thread, answer honestly: This week, were you more excited to watch your team win or to watch the Patriots lose?  The highs and lows you experienced tonight as the Patriots were pushed to the absolute brink...were these peaks and valleys greater than what you felt watching your team yesterday?


Not me. Colts had a very important divisional game against the Jaguars on Sunday. They take on the pissed off Ravens this upcoming week then that\'s about it for the season.

I have been saying it for a while (at least to my Pats friends in Syracuse). When it\'s windy, snowy and cold the Patriots don\'t have a good enough run offense to sustain drives nor do they have a good enough run defense to hold teams to punts. Last night was a great example of this. I don\'t think the Patriots run defense did anything until the 4th quarter.

How much luck is left in the Patriots pot?
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« Reply #194 on: December 04, 2007, 09:48:14 am »
I agree with you, but my season was over a couple of weeks ago, so why not trade for a pats loss.
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