[LMA] 2008-03-08 - Mezzanotte Lounge; Syracuse, NY

[WALSH]

Anyone want to let me in on how this is a SCA and not Jam to start the show?
If it is a SCA it is the jammiest non spacey SCA ever.
If a SCA needs to be there it has to be Jam>SCA>Jam>The Sound

Please Leith, the word \'jam\' appears enough already in these setlists;)

[leith]

Anyone want to let me in on how this is a SCA and not Jam to start the show?
If it is a SCA it is the jammiest non spacey SCA ever.
If a SCA needs to be there it has to be Jam>SCA>Jam>The Sound

Please Leith, the word \'jam\' appears enough already in these setlists;)

Know what sux?
 I can\'t argue that.

[ds673488]

since i cant comment in the other closed thread that walsh made...i think its funny how closed threads often get a lot more visits/views than open ones, usually because people are curious why dave closed it.

[derickw]

i don\'t agree with the SCA song notation sometimes because it\'s the opening jam of a tune same thing with jam. sure sometimes they are warranted but i can pick up on tunes fairly quickly from the jam and if you can catch hints wouldn\'t just be the beginning of the song. but hey i only take pictures.......

What is the actual criteria to call a jam to be called SCA

[leith]

i don\'t agree with the SCA song notation sometimes because it\'s the opening jam of a tune same thing with jam. sure sometimes they are warranted but i can pick up on tunes fairly quickly from the jam and if you can catch hints wouldn\'t just be the beginning of the song. but hey i only take pictures.......

What is the actual criteria to call a jam to be called SCA

I think Dave may know the actual criteria but I have always used this rule: If it sounds like SPACE they are probably starting a SCA

[WALSH]

Derrick, I was thinking the same thing on this occasion.  It really is just a few seconds of spaciness, and then you definitely can tell that they are in an intro to \'The Sound\'.  I think it is Chris that is showing the way the most, and maybe a little of Ad\'s drumming, it goes \'out there\' for a few minutes and then returns as they build back into it.  It seems to be correct in the SCA->The Sound notation, it is just the tracking that seems to be a little off.  \'SCA\' is still only a minute or 2...then it is an intro to the Sound. imho.

Either way, the recording is TOP NOTCH.  It really sounds great, with all four mixed perfectly.

[zuke583]

i\'m firmly against all "SCA"s and most "jam"s...paralysis by analysis

i think i\'m in the minority here, though

[leith]

I tend to agree w/ Walsh that a lot of jams listed are not actually jams but rather extended intros to songs.
It\'s just many folk do not know this band well enough to make that distinction.

[peaches626]

a jam is a jam, if by any other name....

[ds673488]

every "jam" should have a name, that way the breakfast will have many more songs in their catalogue, even if more of them are one time only plays :lol:

[WALSH]

I don\'t want to start this argument again, Dave has stated his feelings and he is the archivist.  That is one point that there will never be a concensus.  I am just talking more about the tracking in this particular \'SCA->The Sound\'.

[leith]

So Jam>SCA>The Sound would be better?

[Gfunk]

.... so anyways, this mayfly is fucking crazy!

[Lexington]

in retrospect I think ithaca was definitely the better of the two upstate shows.

haha. so much for best breakfast show you\'ve ever seen (see setlist: mezzanote thread)
fair enough

[Klout]

at the time of the show it definitely was the best shit ever. retty much show is at the time and  few a while after depending on how long it takes to come down and how good the the show actually was. heh i was soooo blazed at the show though there was nag champa burning in the bathroom so i kept taking like   or 4 hits every time i went to piss. but listening back it was kind of a sloppy performance. spontaneous and off the wall but a bit sloppy and disconnectedness. ithaca was just tight as hell all they way through.