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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2008, 04:24:33 pm »
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by putting it into a cd.


For real? With interest rates lower than inflation this is almost as irresponsible as spending it on drugs. (and alot less fun)


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Either that or invest it in international markets/gold.


Chasing recent performance?  Look up the Callan Chart.  This will show you why I think that\'s such a bad idea.


For anyone carrying credit card debt-throw  the $ at your highest interest payment card.  If you just make minimum payments you can wind up paying for gas you bought one day for years. It\'s so wasteful.

If you\'re debt free- open a Roth IRA.  The $$$ grows tax free.  If you are 30 years old a well balanced stock mutual can turn that into $20K by the time you turn 65.
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2008, 06:26:50 pm »
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If you\'re debt free- open a Roth IRA.  The $$$ grows tax free.  If you are 30 years old a well balanced stock mutual can turn that into $20K by the time you turn 65.

Do it!!!  :awwyeah::thumbsup: according to the reports in my 403(b), I\'ll be a millionaire when I retire ( :lol: at the age of 48!) :D
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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2008, 02:27:05 pm »
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The Senate is set to begin voting on dueling economic aid proposals, as senators rush to add jobless benefits and [-]tax rebates for high earners[/-], the elderly, and disabled veterans to a House-passed package.


i agree with all but

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The measure would make individuals with annual incomes of up to $150,000 and couples with incomes up to $300,000 eligible for the rebates — limits twice as high as the plan the House passed on Tuesday.


i mean thats a little excessive as i look at it the 75,000 cap was a fair one. do you really need or does it REALLY matter to you to get $500 if you make that much money a year. I\'d pocket the $100 difference than to give more loot to people who really don\'t need it. but i\'ll give it up if that money is only going to the elderly and/or veterans.

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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2008, 02:57:54 pm »
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Quote from: FrankZappa;178054
by putting it into a cd.


For real? With interest rates lower than inflation this is almost as irresponsible as spending it on drugs. (and alot less fun)


Quote from: FrankZappa;178054

Either that or invest it in international markets/gold.


Chasing recent performance?  Look up the Callan Chart.  This will show you why I think that\'s such a bad idea.


For anyone carrying credit card debt-throw  the $ at your highest interest payment card.  If you just make minimum payments you can wind up paying for gas you bought one day for years. It\'s so wasteful.

If you\'re debt free- open a Roth IRA.  The $$$ grows tax free.  If you are 30 years old a well balanced stock mutual can turn that into $20K by the time you turn 65.


Even to get a juicier yield on a cd, you\'d likely need to plunk down a minimum investment in the range $5-10,000.  

Zappa, I\'d definitely take the advice of the Coyote here.  To make an investment, you really need to feel comfortable with its fundamentals and cyclical behavior patterns.  For gold, you\'d need to know what environments it thrives (it\'s a crisis hedge) and whether there may be support beyond the current rally.

Flirting with a bear market is actually a good time to make contrarian bets by digging for beaten down stocks/industries that are likely to perform well in the longer term.  Concerned about the longer term health of the economy, you could scope out industres with essential products that consumers will buy in any economic environment (or companies who are not reliant on the U.S. market for most of their earnings).  

My advice: find Bill and Ted\'s time machine phone booth (or a Delorean DMC), go back to October, and make an allocation to an inverse S&P500 fund.
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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2008, 03:08:22 pm »
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i mean thats a little excessive as i look at it the 75,000 cap was a fair one. do you really need or does it REALLY matter to you to get $500 if you make that much money a year. I\'d pocket the $100 difference than to give more loot to people who really don\'t need it. but i\'ll give it up if that money is only going to the elderly and/or veterans.



I agree- kind of. I don\'t really think that given that 100 to a million indaviaduals will make much difference. I would rather them give it to businesses.

Businesses drive the economy more than induviduals, I believe.
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2008, 03:16:53 pm »
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i mean thats a little excessive as i look at it the 75,000 cap was a fair one. do you really need or does it REALLY matter to you to get $500 if you make that much money a year. I\'d pocket the $100 difference than to give more loot to people who really don\'t need it. but i\'ll give it up if that money is only going to the elderly and/or veterans.


I agree- kind of. I don\'t really think that given that 100 to a million indaviaduals will make much difference. I would rather them give it to businesses.

Businesses drive the economy more than induviduals, I believe.

it wouldn\'t only be a hundred, everyone would get 500 instead of only the select few getting 600 which was the first plan i remember reading about.

i know but the House plan had stuff in there for businesses as far as reimbursement of infrastructure improvements. i think it was around 25% or more. which would def. make me more apt to buy a new personal/ home/ work computer in 08\'. so i agree.
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2008, 03:32:45 pm »
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Businesses drive the economy more than induviduals, I believe.


2/3 of all GDP spending is consumer spending.  However, without healthy businesses and reasonable employment levels, consumer spending takes a hit.  So it is all related.

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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2008, 04:24:21 pm »
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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2008, 04:59:42 pm »
so. wait. after i pay them $4-5k or more in a couple months (i worked all year without getting any taxes taken out of my checks), they\'re gonna give ME money back? pointless, what the hell am i gonna do with 600 bucks a month after giving them 5 grand? guess i can go see the mashantuckett pequots and give it to them.
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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2008, 08:23:41 am »
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so. wait. after i pay them $4-5k or more in a couple months (i worked all year without getting any taxes taken out of my checks), they\'re gonna give ME money back? pointless, what the hell am i gonna do with 600 bucks a month after giving them 5 grand? guess i can go see the mashantuckett pequots and give it to them.


stimulate that economy my friend. do your job as a good hard working American and buy stuff
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« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2008, 01:41:51 pm »
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« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2008, 02:47:27 pm »
...shoes...
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« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2008, 10:53:42 pm »
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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2008, 01:46:49 pm »
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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2008, 11:52:15 pm »
Black market
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