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« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2008, 06:03:44 pm »
Here\'s my policy:  Before the night begins, I come up with a reasonable number of drinks that I will consume during the course of the show/party prior to going out.  I go out, have my "x" drinks and stop right there.  I know it\'s easier said than done, but I never seem to put myself in a bad place.  

Jocelyn, sorry to hear about the troubles.  Here\'s one positive: you may lose your license during the summer so you can possibly get around on a bike during the warm weather (of course I have no idea how far your work is from home).  Definitely better than winter.
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« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2008, 06:45:39 pm »
Quote from: Vassillios;187784
I just drank a fifth of vodka.

dare me to drive?

(Sorry but this thread needs some enlightenment)

Fortunately, in another thread, we\'re debating which Spice Girl Paul Ryan should impregnate, so your comment isn\'t entirely out of left field.
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« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2008, 07:20:16 pm »
dui changed my life, or at least the last 8 months of it. put short: it suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
and it\'s still sucking because i can\'t get a job if i have to drive anywhere while on the clock. i don\'t know if the system works for everyone, but madd has done a lot of lobbying in congress, and nothing moves shit in washington like organized pissed off mothers. anyway, i remember being in the class and doing the math:
15 hour class [ten sessions]
1 teacher [who lessened the time to an hour per session]
12 participants
$500 each.
that\'s $6000 for one dui education program.
i\'m sittin\' in the class listening to the teacher read word for word [slowly] from our "workbook", the only material provided for the class which must cost $2 to print, trying to figure out how many of these classes are given each year, at the facility, in the state, in the country, and wondering,
 
"where does all the money go??"
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« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2008, 07:34:13 pm »
I don\'t think of it as a black and white issue.  I don\'t they should throw the book at Joce, but I don\'t think that anyone who gets a DWI/DUI should get off without some sort of penalty.
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« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2008, 07:55:28 pm »
Quote from: Yoda;187795
I don\'t think that anyone who gets a DWI/DUI should get off without some sort of penalty.

i agree, however i really hope things work out for joc as she relies on having a license to drive herself to work/have an income, etc.

people make mistakes and this kind of shit makes a huge impact on someone\'s life and costs LOTS OF MONEY.

i\'m pretty sure (actually positive) that a bunch of us have been just as guilty of driving home after a show or a night out after having one too many. it\'s a dangerous risk and it eventually catches up with the best of us.

hope things work out okay for you jocelyn. unfortunately, getting that pricey lawyer is gonna be key.
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« Reply #50 on: April 28, 2008, 09:16:04 pm »
Quote from: Yoda;187795
I don\'t think of it as a black and white issue.  I don\'t they should throw the book at Joce, but I don\'t think that anyone who gets a DWI/DUI should get off without some sort of penalty.


We\'re in agreement here.  It\'s like this article I read recently on water consumption in my hometown. They talked for two pages about how you can reduce your consumption by thousands and thousands of gallons a year, all great points. Then they concluded with the worst line ever, something along the lines of "If you do the above you can realistically save 20,000 gallons a year which would save you $5.60."

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Good luck making a difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bottom line is in this society if you don\'t charge people generally don\'t change. I didn\'t think for a second 1. Joce will be walking away free and clear -and- 2. that she should (sorry but it\'s the truth)...  I just got the feeling originally that you were saying \'they should throw the book at Joce\' in which case I was disagreeing.

I made the decision about a year and a half ago that I should never drive drunk again without having a rap sheet for it. Since, I have a few times and regretted it every time. A thought to think about, even if you are clearly fine to drive after a couple drinks (still under the legal limit) just think if you got caught up in the wrong situation that wasn\'t your fault yet you\'re the guy/gal with booze on your breath?
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« Reply #51 on: April 28, 2008, 09:44:19 pm »
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I\'m really freaked out because I got an aggravated DWI, which is much, much worse. I really need to be able to get to and from the barn, which is a 25 minute drive from my house. No idea what to do. Might have to move or something. And def. need a good lawyer.

It also is really bad because I have students depending upon me to get them to and from events.


Joc.  Sorry to hear about this unfortunate situation.

An ex of mine got pinched while we were together.  Her license got revoked.  However, the terms of her probation allowed her to drive to and from work.  But that was CT.  Not sure how NH works.

Get a lawyer w/ DUI experience.  They\'ll know how the system works.

Aggravated DWI?  Sorry if you\'ve already explained, I haven\'t read the entire thread.

Quote from: Yoda;187795
I don\'t think of it as a black and white issue.  I don\'t they should throw the book at Joce, but I don\'t think that anyone who gets a DWI/DUI should get off without some sort of penalty.


I think you\'re underestimating the "penalty".  My ex got off from her DUI with a "penalty".  It was about $5000, hours of community service, and she could only use her car to get to work for 9 months.

That might sound "light" to you, but try and live through it.  It definitely made an impression on her life.
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« Reply #52 on: April 28, 2008, 10:22:42 pm »
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Aggravated DWI?  Sorry if you\'ve already explained, I haven\'t read the entire thread.

NH DWI vs. Aggravated DWI:

DWI, 1st Offense
RSA 265:82 and RSA 263:65-a

Classified as a violation.
Fine: Not less than $350 and not more than $1,000.
License revocation: 90 days (minimum), up to 2 years. For any offender with a prior conviction(s), in this or any other state, within 7 years preceding the date of the second or subsequent offense, the revocation shall be for not less than 180 days nor more than 3 years. (RSA 265:82-b).
An Impaired Driver Intervention Program must be "successfully completed" prior to restoration. This means meeting further counseling requirements, if any, arising out of the final evaluation at the IDIP provided, however, that the offender shall have the right to a hearing at the Dept. of Safety. At the hearing, the hearing officer shall determine whether the further counseling requirements are "warranted and appropriate" and whether the offender shall be eligible for license restoration. (Effective 1/1/97)
Immediately following a conviction for any offense under RSA 265:82, the DMV shall examine the offender\'s motor vehicle record for a prior DWI conviction (under RSA 265:85 or within RSA 265:82-a) over the preceding seven years. If a prior conviction exits, the license or privilege to drive shall not be restored until the offender has successfully completed a seven-day residential Phase II Impaired Driver Intervention Program. [RSA 265:82-bVI (a) and (b)].


Aggravated DWI
RSA 265:82-a

Classified as a misdemeanor (except for provisions listed below*).
Fine: not less than $500 or more than $1,000 (except for provisions listed below*).
License revocation: 1 year mandatory, or for a period not to exceed 2 years.
Aggravated DWI is based on a blood alcohol concentration of .16% or higher OR a blood alcohol reading of .08% or higher, or being under the influence of intoxicating liquor and/or any controlled drug, PLUS any of the following:
speed 30 mph over posted limit.
involvement in an accident resulting in serious bodily injury.
attempting to elude an officer by increasing speed, diminishing headlights, or attempting to leave the scene of an accident.
Conviction of Aggravated DWI based on involvement in an accident resulting in serious bodily injury is classified as a Class B felony, and carries a fine of $1,000 - $2,000 and a license revocation of 1 year minimum mandatory up to two years. [RSA: 265:82-aI (b) & II(b), RSA 265:82-bII]

For those arrested for DUI / DWI after January 1, 2005, there are enhanced punishments.

For an aggravated DWI conviction, you must now complete a seven-day residential treatment program at the State\'s Multiple DWI Offender Detention Center in Laconia; that sentence must be served within 24 days of your conviction and follows a minimum of three days in the County House of Correction.
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« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2008, 02:33:01 am »
So...not to seem dense (which sometimes I am), but what the fuck made it an aggravated DWI?

You don\'t have to answer if you don\'t want to...
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« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2008, 07:29:40 am »
Quote from: Wolfman;187787
This is a good thread to remind everyone (including myself) that you can get arrested for DUI/DWI even if you are BELOW the legal limit if the cops think your driving is lousy.  If you\'re driving, you should really plan on drinking Cokes or Red Bulls for the night.


Since this thread has hints of a general discussion on the topic, I might as well ask.

Lets say it\'s late at night and I get pulled over for driving behaviours that appear to suggest I am under the influence.

If I was running a BAC of 0, you are saying that I could still be arrested for DUI/DWI?
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« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2008, 08:18:07 am »
Quote from: Todd;187863
So...not to seem dense (which sometimes I am), but what the fuck made it an aggravated DWI?

You don\'t have to answer if you don\'t want to...


i was wondering the same thing.  i can\'t really see joc trying to evade a cop...



just got to mention, joc, if you\'re feeling shitty about this, let me remind you that sharing your experience with us has helped many people on this board think more about their own actions, and you may very well have helped someone here avoid a tremendous disaster.

if our mistakes can help someone else, then we\'ve transformed previous mistakes into a positive force.  i think that\'s a pretty powerful thing if you ask me.
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« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2008, 08:33:24 am »
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blood alcohol concentration of .16% or higher

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« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2008, 09:10:16 am »
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if our mistakes can help someone else, then we\'ve transformed previous mistakes into a positive force.  i think that\'s a pretty powerful thing if you ask me.


i\'m sure as shit not doing it.
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« Reply #58 on: April 29, 2008, 09:58:18 am »
this is an old friend of mine we used to hang out with in college:

http://capitalnews9.com/content/top_stories/49994/averill-park-woman-indicted-for-homicide/Default.aspx

she had a .13 and killed a 17 year old kid who was walking out in the road.  she didn\'t get convicted of the homicide but eventually went to jail for a year with part of it suspended just on the dwi charge.

she had three beers.  accidents happen and if you accidentally hit someone while under the influence you\'re seriously fucked.

i also lost one of my best friends in college - she always drove drunk and was \'invincible\' but one day it caught up with her in 1998 and she killed herself and a few other people over near waterbury on 84.

everyone please be careful in the future.

i am not saying that i have been completely innocent there have been probably 4 or 5 times i have teetered the line in my life but you can have 2-3 drinks over the course of a show and still legally be sober enough to drive home and still have a great time at the show. just make sure you do your math and chill out for a bit if you think you can\'t drive.

jocelyn good luck and keep us updated and let us know if we can help with anything.

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« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2008, 10:05:05 am »
yeah my good friend from college just killed himself driving drunk this past fall.  came home from the bar at 2:30, went off the road and hit a tree.  it was sad for everyone, he had just graduated one of the top in his class at UB.
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