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« Reply #390 on: February 05, 2008, 10:42:33 pm »
you already have the devils and the nets and you want more glory for your stinky state?

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« Reply #391 on: February 05, 2008, 11:32:09 pm »
I have the devils and the nets are going to brooklyn.  I\'ll settle for the Jets, you can have your giants.
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« Reply #392 on: February 06, 2008, 04:23:20 am »
is the nets going to brooklyn still on the table? I have not heard that rumour in a couple of years. THough it was dead.
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« Reply #393 on: February 06, 2008, 10:38:52 am »
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I have the devils and the nets are going to brooklyn.  I\'ll settle for the Jets, you can have your giants.


If only the rest of NJ actually went to Devils games then maybe you guys could make a case for another decent franchise. How this EXTREMELY successful franchise gets no respect in NJ is a shame. 3 stanley cups (with in the last 15 years), They win their division almost every year, multiple conference championships, arguably the best goal tender to ever play hockey and yet they cannot even sell out playoff games.
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« Reply #394 on: February 06, 2008, 11:42:22 am »
I agree with you.  I\'ve been a devils fan since the early 80\'s, but not many people can afford $50 a ticket plus $10+ for parking.  I try and get to at least 2-3 games a year and we used to get MacLean\'s seats, which made it easier.  But, make no mistake, I\'m not happy about the new arena in Newark - it\'s basically forced public transportation, when I live 5 minutes away from the old arena.

To answer you later point, I think that close 50%, if not more, of the season ticket holders for both the Jets and the Giants are from NJ.  I\'m not saying that they should completely change the name, but both teams have been in NJ for over 20 years, give us a little credit.
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« Reply #395 on: February 06, 2008, 12:13:19 pm »
the season is over. end this damn thread.
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« Reply #396 on: February 06, 2008, 12:54:45 pm »
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the season is over. end this damn thread.


I assumed you were a Broncos fan, but now I\'m guessing that you\'re a Pats fan. This should help you cope with the loss.
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« Reply #397 on: February 06, 2008, 01:03:41 pm »
im a skins fan, pats are my #2 go-to.

thanks for that link tho. good stuff
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« Reply #398 on: February 06, 2008, 01:26:32 pm »
Carl has been doing those videos for most of the season, they\'re really funny. Here is a link to the rest of them. Just search for \'pissed\' and they\'ll all come up.


So I held off from posting this Monday morning but I may as well do it.

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« Reply #399 on: February 12, 2008, 09:48:51 pm »
Super Bowl photos:
http://s253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/wolfsbro/

A couple of halftime videos on my youtube channel (not that good):
http://youtube.com/user/wolfsbro2

Perspective from a week later:  (Note: I\'m not reading responses, just doing some writing after some inspired personal exchanges with Klout and ChrisPitch and others outside of .info.  I originally PMed this to Klout.)

It\'s funny. I was on the phone with Pitchie for about 30 minutes trying to explain this the other day. He, too, was incredulous as to my apparent lack of anger over the result of this game.

Now, let\'s start by putting it in its proper perspective. It IS incredibly bad. I\'m still having nightmares about it. It\'s the second-worst loss of my life. The worst was, far and away, Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS because the Red Sox mean more than the Pats to any honest Boston sports fan. However, 2004 wiped out all pain of 2003. So although 2003 ALCS game 7 was the worst loss in the immediate aftermath of the given game, Super Bowl XLII is now the worst loss on my sports psyche going forward.

But here\'s the other side of it. Like I said in the post, I am so grateful for my position in sports fandom right now that it\'s hard to get that mad at one loss. The Patriots are still 3-1 in Super Bowls in the last 7 years. That\'s a great record, but holy shit, how about making it four times?!?!? The Red Sox are fresh off yet another championship and the Celtics are awesome. I\'m trying to force myself to get more upset and I just can\'t. The big-picture perspective may certainly be a natural defense mechanism that my brain is working on itself so I don\'t totally freak out over this game. The cynic would call it sugar-coating, but at its core it is not malicious sugar-coating; it\'s just how I really feel.

Attending the Super Bowl redefines your perspective as a sports fan and is a true life moment. I took a few moments before the game to stop and just look at the place and think to myself, "I must be doing something right" and "Life really is good..." you know, that sort of stuff. Especially having been diagnosed with a chronic illness in November and not being sure if I was going to make it out to Phoenix at all, I was very grateful to be there. The enormity of the game and everything that comes with it create an experience that can be as much spiritual as it is carnal. When you think about it, half the people who ever go to the Super Bowl watch their team lose. But do they all have a ruined trip? Do they all regret going? Of course not, it\'s still a great time and you reached the pinnacle of the sports ladder. The possibility of a loss is the risk you take because you\'re a fan of the team.

Many people are actually disappointed with my apparent lack of rage. Some want me to be more upset for their own pleasure because the suffering of a Patriots fan gives them happiness. They have quickly come to realize that although rooting against the Patriots made the 4 hours of the game more fun, it doesn\'t provide any lasting satisfaction because whatever team they root for is still irrelevant. So they turn to my rage to satisfy themselves, only it\'s not there at the potency they desire and so they get mad all over again. Others think about how upset they would be if their team lost the Super Bowl and are confused by my reaction and are thus uncomfortable. But most people would go into the game assuming it was a once-in-a-lifetime-chance. I don\'t have to hang that much on it given recent events. It\'s hard to explain my place in sports fandom and how it\'s too good to be that bad. I don\'t say to people, "Look, you\'ll never live through the 7 years I\'ve lived through as a sports fan and you\'ve never personally attended a Super Bowl, so I can\'t explain it to you." Although that statement is true, it would be pretty obnoxious to say. Instead I go with something like "Look, if you went to the casino and won money all over the place and went up $100,000 and on the way out someone robbed you of $20,000, how would you feel leaving the casino?... If you ask me, I\'m up $80,000 and I\'m pretty psyched. Call me optomistic, but that\'s how I have to look at it."

So that\'s where I\'m at. It is the worst loss I have to live with and I still think about it. But I can\'t get devastated nearly enough to satisfy the bloodthirsty agony-seekers out there. And if the Patriots win it next year, we can go right back to talking about Brady and Belichick as the greatest of all time and I will have the thick insulation of another title shielding me from this loss sturdily enough to render its pain vanquished.  Just like the Red Sox in 2004.

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« Reply #400 on: February 12, 2008, 10:48:28 pm »
Would this count as an Op-Ed?

As Giants fan, I\'m surprised how little an impact this has had on me.  Maybe it\'s because the last time they won the Super Bowl I was 12 years old, and my favorite football team was a hell of a lot more important to me back then.  

It\'s part of it, but not whole thing.  I think in way it\'s not as satisfying because the Giants were not the best team in league (or even close) for most of the season.  There\'s a satisfaction that comes from knowing your team was The Best.  They had a nice run, but I still see this as building block.  Weird, right?

I love the Giants, and any year they win the Super Bowl is great.  I hate the Patriots (not the players, or even Belichick so much as Bob Kraft) and it brought me great joy that their season was ruined, but really as a sports fan that\'s not were you want to be.  It kind of puts me right in there with all those morons from Boston who chant "Yankees suck!" at funerals, bar mitzvahs, lines at Dunkin Donuts, etc.

What was missing was the way high expectations and quality performance pull you in over the course of a season.  That was utterly missing and left this win a little shallow.  I hoped, but I admit, until that clock eating opening Super Bowl drive I didn\'t believe.

Am I a bad fan?  Maybe.  But here\'s to a winning record at home next year!
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« Reply #401 on: February 12, 2008, 11:04:25 pm »
Wolfman, once the dust clears a bit more, you\'ll be in therapy for years (unless the Pats have another solid run-up next year).
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« Reply #402 on: February 13, 2008, 12:13:35 am »
Wolfman\'s five stages of Grief....

 
  1. Denial: The initial stage: "It\'s not possible...we are too good...this is the best team ever...it\'s just not possible!"
 
  2. Anger: "FUCK YOU ELI!! FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!"
 
  3. Bargaining: "Well ...we have won it three times this decade and there\'s always next year.......right?"
   
  4. Depression: "I\'m so sad, is it baseball season yet?"
   
  5. Acceptance: "It\'s OK, the team and the city with the most heart deserves to win and they did"




I honestly do hope you truly are at #5 and will not regress wolfy!


And on that note.......



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« Reply #403 on: February 13, 2008, 01:04:09 am »
klout thanks thats the best post ive seen in a long time. michael strahans toof gap must chart its own wind patterns
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« Reply #404 on: February 13, 2008, 01:55:35 am »
Wolfman, from your pictures, I notice you were at the game with Justin Millette.
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